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  • #19543
     Les Thompson 
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    Oh man …. 3 great tables to showcase my cab and VP10 now … and no disrespect to anyone else  …but wow great job.

    Monster Bash

    MM from Tom T

    and CV DMD Mod

     

    Awesome work by everyone  :yahoo:   :good:

    #19635
     Scotty VH 
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    oh man… Thanks! really means a lot to me when you say that! I love this hobby and wish I could do more! My skills require a lot of help from other great VP members around here so make sure you thank them too! :heart:

    I aspire to the day when I can contribute something more than merely moral support.  I’m blown away by everyone’s skills in making these tables.  Who could have predicted back in the day playing the originals that this would all be emulated this way?  Unimaginable magic!

    #23075
     Umpa 
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    just played this what a great table. Thank you!

     


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    #23188
     Clark Kent 
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    Hi, Randr!

    If you are interested: I revised the physics because the ball was floating too much for me. I’m using the standard physic used in all new releases, plays very realistic now. Added ball size 51 with correct ball mass for this size.

    Revised the flippers and the inlanes as these were inaccurate. The interaction between inlanes and flippers is ofter underrated. It’s important that the upper edge of the inlanes should always be just a very little bit higher that the upper edge of the flippers and if you draw an imaginary extension of the upper edge of the inlane walls the distance between this extension and the thickest part of the flipper finger should be the same on both sides.

    And I removed the not working primitives at the slingshots and added fully working animated slingshots with new sounds. I adjusted the ramps 2633-36 just a little bit again and made the bumpers are a little bit stronger. And I found some walls with friction 0 or 0,0015 (instead of 0,15). Adjusted these, too.

    This version is still not perfect, I found several design problems but I did not correct all of them. There are also a lot of unnecessary walls which can be removed because you already added rubbers there. That’s work in progress.

    I only still have the problem that the drain is not always recognized right as you can hear the ball drain but the bonus points are not counted and no new ball is presented. Discussed this with several authors but nobody seems to find the reason for this…

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/hdhzy986i5wdzr1/Monster%20Bash%20VPX%201.3.1.rar?dl=0


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    #23216
     ALDiode 
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    I only still have the problem that the drain is not always recognized right as you can hear the ball drain but the bonus points are not counted and no new ball is presented. Discussed this with several authors but nobody seems to find the reason for this…

    Clark,

    I was having the same problem with the ball not registering a drain properly. I moved the apron off the playfield (see below) so that I could watch what happens when the ball drains. When the ball fails to register a drain, it rolls past the invisible drain kicker along the bottom edge of the table toward the plunger and then falls beneath the table at the plunger (see arrow for path)

     

    Hope that helps.

     

    AL

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    #23221
     randr 
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    I have never had it happen but i can look at adding a wall should fix issue but again has not been a problem for me. Thanks for the screenshot it helps

    #23228
     ALDiode 
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    I have never had it happen but i can look at adding a wall should fix issue but again has not been a problem for me. Thanks for the screenshot it helps

    Randr,

    Disregard that. I had a senior moment and moved the wall with the apron image off the field as well. I did notice that the wall is touching the kicker (see image) so I centered it away from the wall and increased its radius a bit and it seems to work right now. Thank for the great table!

     

    AL

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    #23263
     Clark Kent 
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    Unfortunately this does also not help. No idea what it really causes it…

    #23289
     Umpa 
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    I tried Clarks version and had the drain issue. Went back to original didn’t have the problem. Not sure if that helps

    #23294
     randr 
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    Well i dont use Clark Kents version so explains why i dont have any problem. :)

    #23302
     Clark Kent 
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    Nevertheless the problem must be somewhere within your table as I only changed inlanes and flippers – this never happend on any revised table until now (and I’m revising a lot). The drain destroys the ball correctly but somehow it does not know sometimes that it did.

    #23315
     topcat 
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    Clark I guess I don’t understand? The “official” released version is fine but your modded version is the issue so something is different with your personal modded version no?

    #23321
     ninuzzu 
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    I had the same problem with Twilight Zone 1.1

    The issue occurs because you changed eleasticity/friction of Wall78.

    Decrease the elasticity ( I used a very low value) and increase the drain kicker size a little bit and the problem disappears.

    Also the old cvpmballstack should be removed in the script, it’s better to use the new cvpmtrough and cvpmsaucer.

    So go to line 75 and replace the cvpmballstack with this

     

    Set bsTrough = New cvpmTrough
    With bsTrough
    .Size = 4
    .InitSwitches Array(32, 33, 34, 35)
    .Initexit BallRelease,90,6
    .Balls = 4
    .InitEntrySounds “Drain”, “” , “”
    .InitExitSounds SoundFX(“Solenoid”,DOFContactors), SoundFX(“ballrelease”,DOFContactors)
    End With

    #23337
     Clark Kent 
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    Many thanx! I never thought a changed elasticity can cause this weird problem! Great finding! Even JP didn’t find this…

    So maybe my improvements to physics are now considered to be included.

    I still plan to work on the table because there are some smaller problems and a lot of unused walls.

    #23339
     ninuzzu 
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    I noticed another important thing:

    since the game complains about sw31 (through eject) , I searched it in the script and I didn’t find it.

    Quick fix:

    First remove the drain sound from the drain_hit sub, it’s already declared in the .InitEntrySounds

    Now change the SolCallback(9) to

    SolCallback(9) = “ReleaseBall”

    Then add this routine

    Sub ReleaseBall(enabled)
    If Enabled And bsTrough.Balls > 0 Then
    vpmTimer.PulseSw 31
    bsTrough.ExitSol_On
    End If
    End Sub

    This is the same routine I used in CC, the same that JP used in TOTAN, it’s the standard for all WPC games.

    (They have all the same switches numbers)

    The first time the game will still complain about it, but once it’s triggered the first time, the error disappears.

    I think that this, in addition with the “not correct” scripted trough, is the real cause of the issue.

    #23341
     Clark Kent 
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    Ok, thanx again! I knew that there must be some problems in the script.

    I uploaded the new working version. Just use the link above.


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    #23387
     STAT 
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    randr, you will update your DL also ?

    #23394
     Clark Kent 
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    Trigger1 is not placed correctly. When the ball is shot onto the playfield, the switch remains activated. Unfortunately VPX doesn’t forgive the smallest inaccuracy. I corrected this and updated my upload.

     

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    #23460
     randr 
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    randr, you will update your DL also ?

    Yeah i will update with Ninuzzu’s script changes but will wait on another release until i finish some more cosmetic upgrades to table and lighting tweaks


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    #24454
     Clark Kent 
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    I have scanned plastics. Wouldn’t it be better to replace the ones from the table as some are really really bad?

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0je2uqmdva4mvkn/AABAcC658X-Riet77J5iaK7Ma?dl=0


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