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    • Author: TerryRed
    • Version: 1.0
    • Views: 4874
    • File size: 1.02 GB
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    • File Author: TerryRed, Tarcísio Caleiro
    • Updated: September 20, 2018
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  • It's time to "transform" the virtual pinball world with this new Transformers: Mega-Tracks PuP-Pack! Featuring over 250 videos, and a new "PuP-Tracks" music option that replaces the original SAM mono music with a new (high quality Stereo) Original Movie Soundtrack played from Pinup Player! A first for SAM based tables!

     

    A video preview of the PuP-Pack with the OST music can be seen here:

    https://youtu.be/i5Y8nRuu4aE

     

    System:  Visual Pinball X (version 10.5+)

     

    PuP-Pack: Videos, Media, music, PuP-Pack Editor & PuPCapture files by TerryRed

    Autobot and Decepticon "Eyes" Toppers: Tarcísio Caleiro

    Pinup Player: Nailbuster

    This PuP-Pack and the use of it's music was heavily inspired by Rom and SLAMT1LT's excellent Future Pinball table. (some of the music files are from that table)

     

    Features:

    -over 250 different videos for each of the 19+ game modes!

    -6 different video screens always playing at the same time.

    -electrically animated border.

    -optional new PuP-Tracks music (that replaces the mono low quality SAM music). Featuring (high quality stereo) Original Movie Soundtracks from the first 3 movies.

    -overlay still frame

    -Autobot and Decepticon crest and characters that change videos based on which side you choose and what mode you are playing!

    -music will change based on what side you choose. Each side's main music will also be different every game.

    -different music tracks for every mode in the game.

    -Backglass will change it's "Eyes" depending on what side you choose.

    -optional Topper "Eyes" videos that also change with what side you choose. (you can change up the backglass video files so they don't change to better match this option)

    -works with all cabinet configurations (DMD can be positioned in the bottom text area if required)

    -over 220 PuPCapture DMD images being monitored

     

    This PuP-Pack uses the following PuP-screens:

    Screen 2 - Backglass (Underlay Video Layer)

    Screen 3 - DMD (Text)

    Screen 5 - Menu (Decepticon Crest)

    Screen 6 - Select (Autobot Crest)

    Screen 7 - Other1/Backglass 2 (Decepticons)

    Screen 8 - Other2/Topper 2 (Autobots)

    Overlay - Frame Layer

    Screen 4 - Music (PuP-Tracks, OST) "Optional"

    Screen 0 - Topper (Auto / Dec "Eyes") "Optional"

     

    Important! If you have ANY of the above PuP screens "rotated" in the PuP default settings (you shouldn't though), then those same screens will also be rotated in this PuP-Pack!

    =============================================================

    REQUIREMENTS: IMPORTANT!

     

    Visual Pinball X 10.5 All in One or higher installed (this is to include newest B2S Server):

    https://vpinball.com/VPBdownloads/categories/vpx-exes/

    PinMAME 3.2 beta or higher installed:

    http://vpuniverse.com/forums/topic/3651-sambuild32-beta-thread/

     

    PINUP SYSTEM (1.3.7 or higher):

    PinUP System 1.3.6 FULLY installed and PinUP Player setup. (The Pinup Popper front-end is not required for PuP-Packs, for those who use another front-end)

    https://vpinball.com/VPBdownloads/pinup-system-player-and-popper-front-end-install/

    If you are upgrading from 1.3.5 or lower, you MUST first update to 1.3.6 and install the new dmddevicePUP.dll that comes with the 1.3.6 update, into your VPinMAME folder!

    http://www.nailbuster.com/wikipinup/doku.php?id=release_notes

    Then you need to update FROM 1.3.6 TO to 1.3.7 (until a newer update comes out). If these updates are not properly installed, then this PuP-Pack will not work correctly! (make sure there are no blocked files)

    http://www.nailbuster.com/pinupdates/PinUPSystem_update_1_3_7.zip

     

    DMDEXT:

    DMDExt 1.71 (32 bit/x86 files only!) or higher installed in your VPinMAME folder and configured to enable PUPCapture!

    This PuP-Pack relies on monitoring the freezy dmdext DMD for specific images to trigger videos and music (PuPCapture). This needs both the freezy 1.71+ "dmddevice.dll" file, and the Pinup Player "dmddevicePUP.dll" file in your VPinMAME folder.

    Ensure PuPCapture is enabled in the dmddevice.ini file (in your VPinMAME folder):

    [pinup]

    enabled=true

     

    Note: If you are using a real DMD, then ensure that the freezy virtual DMD is disabled in the dmddevice.ini file:

     

    ; a DMD that renders with nice dots on a computer monitor

    [virtualdmd]

    enabled = false

     

    PINMAME:

    In the PinMAME settings for the Transformers tf_180 rom (press F1 during gameplay):

    - you must have "Use External DMD (DLL)" enabled. This will enable the freezy dmdext dmddevice.dll to be used, which is needed for PuPCapture.

    - have "Ignore Rom CRC Errors" enabled. (to allow the use of a custom rom)

    DMDs can now be ANY colour (or DMD colour mod) you want! This is a NEW feature with Freezy 1.71 files installed! There is no longer a requirement to have your DMD a specific colour for PuP-Packs in VPX!

    Your DMD must be in English for all PuPCapture video triggers to work correctly!

     

    PinUPPlayerB2SDriver and B2S SERVER SETTINGS:

    Be sure that your PuPB2s Driver and B2S server settings are setup and working correctly so you don't get any errors.

    http://www.nailbuster.com/wikipinup/doku.php?id=puppack_troubleshoot

     

    NO DIRECTB2S BACKGLASS RUNNING:

    You MUST NOT have a directb2s running at all, or it will obscure the PuP Backglass!!!

    Simply make sure you have a copy of your favorite Transformers table (intended only for use with this PuP-Pack), and make sure it is named VERY differently to your directb2s file, so when you launch that copy of your table it won't launch the directb2s!

     

    FRONT-END MEDIA DISABLED FOR TRANSFORMERS TABLE:

    Make sure you have no media displayed on your Backglass and Topper when launching the table from a front-end.

    Pinball X: In Games Manager, make sure you have "Hide Topper" and "Hide Backglass" enabled for the table you are using.

    Popper: In Games Manager, for the table you are using, enter -1 In the "Keep Displays ON" field (to not use Popper media on ALL Displays when launching the table)

     

    ================================================

    INSTALLATION:

    Ensure there are no files in your "PUPVideos" "tf_180" folder (if that folder already exists).

    Copy the PuP-Pack "tf_180" folder from the zip archive into your PUPVideos folder.

     

    OST Movie Music (optional). To enable the PuP-Tracks music:

    -you MUST use my custom "Muted Music Rom" version of the tf_180.zip Rom file. Copy the tf_180.zip from the "TF_PuP-Muted Music Rom.zip" to your VPinMAME Roms folder (backup your original tf_180.zip file). This is required because SAM tables cannot have their music turned down or reduced by either VPX or the table's Service Menu. I made this custom version of the rom with all the game's music muted so it will allow only the PuP-Pack to play music for the game.

    -edit the tf_180 PuP-Pack with the PuP-Pack Editor, and change Screen 4 (Music) to "Show". Then Save.

    -run the PinUpPlayerConfigDisplays.bat in the "PinupSystem" folder, and make sure your Music screen "Default State" is set to "Hide Always" (Sound Only)

    PuP-Tracks OST Music ONLY Pack:

    If you only want to have the PuP-Tracks OST Music and NO Videos, then I have also included a "TF-PuP-Tracks OST Music Only Pack.zip". Just copy the "tf_180" folder from the zip archive into your "PupVideos", and use the custom rom from the "TF_PuP-Muted Music Rom.zip".

     

    "EYES" and Topper / Unders:

    -during gameplay the Backglass will change it's robot "eyes" animation to whatever side you choose in the game. You can also have this animation show up on your "Topper-Under" monitor (if you have one). Use the PuP-Pack Editor to change the Topper (Screen 0) to Force ON and save. Then copy the files from the Topper (21:9 screen) or Under (wider screen) zip archive into your "PuPVideos" "tf_180" folder.

    -if you don't want the Backglass to change its "eyes" from the default image, then remove the files in the "Backglass_Autobots" and "Backglass_Decepticons" folders. Then copy the video from "Backglass_Backgrounds" to those same folders.

    ================================================

    PROBLEMS:

    The “eyes” video switching (when you choose your side) only works correctly for one player (or the last player to choose). There is nothing in the DMD I can use to identify player 1 or 2 , etc to make it work beyond the last player who chose their side.

    If you have video stuttering or artifacts with PuP-Packs with VPX...  you most likely don't have VSYNC properly setup in VPX. Set "FPS Limiter/VSYNC" to 1, and "Maximum Pre-Rendered Frames" to 1 in VPX Video Options. This can also be set per-table in the Table's "User Customization" options, so check that as well.

    Having certain programs running in the background can also cause issues as they may interfere with VLC or prevent Overlays from displaying. Try closing out other programs / processes to see if that helps resolve any issues.

    If the OST music "during gameplay" isn't working correctly then you probably didn't update correctly.

    To make it CLEAR. You MUST be updated "properly" to Pinup System 1.3.7 for this Pack to work "correctly"! Some videos may not be triggering, and the OST Music PuP-Tracks will NOT work correctly without that update! Full instructions for updating and the links are in the Description under REQUIREMENTS.

    For other issues with getting a PuP-Pack to work, refer to the wiki:

    http://www.nailbuster.com/wikipinup/doku.php?id=puppack_troubleshoot

    Ensure you have read ALL of the requirements needed in the Description FIRST!

    ================================================

    INSTALLATION:

    Ensure there are no files in your "PUPVideos" "tf_180" folder (if that folder already exists).

    Copy the PuP-Pack "tf_180" folder from the zip archive into your PUPVideos folder.

     

    OST Movie Music (optional). To enable the PuP-Tracks music:

    -you MUST use my custom "Muted Music Rom" version of the tf_180.zip Rom file. Copy the tf_180.zip from the "TF_PuP-Muted Music Rom.zip" to your VPinMAME Roms folder (backup your original tf_180.zip file). This is required because SAM tables cannot have their music turned down or reduced by either VPX or the table's Service Menu. I made this custom version of the rom with all the game's music muted so it will allow only the PuP-Pack to play music for the game.

    -edit the tf_180 PuP-Pack with the PuP-Pack Editor, and change Screen 4 (Music) to "Show". Then Save.

    -run the PinUpPlayerConfigDisplays.bat in the "PinupSystem" folder, and make sure your Music screen "Default State" is set to "Hide Always" (Sound Only)

    PuP-Tracks OST Music ONLY Pack:

    If you are insane, and only want to have the PuP-Tracks OST Music and NO Videos, then I have also included a "TF-PuP-Tracks OST Music Only Pack.zip". Just copy the "tf_180" folder from the zip archive into your "PupVideos", and use the custom rom from the "TF_PuP-Muted Music Rom.zip".

     

    "EYES" and Topper / Unders:

    -during gameplay the Backglass will change it's robot "eyes" animation to whatever side you choose in the game. You can also have this animation show up on your "Topper-Under" monitor (if you have one). Use the PuP-Pack Editor to change the Topper (Screen 0) to Force ON and save. Then copy the files from the Topper (21:9 screen) or Under (wider screen) zip archive into your "PuPVideos" "tf_180" folder.

    -if you don't want the Backglass to change its "eyes" from the default image, then remove the files in the "Backglass_Autobots" and "Backglass_Decepticons" folders. Then copy the video from "Backglass_Backgrounds" to those same folders.

    ================================================

    PROBLEMS:

    The “eyes” video switching (when you choose your side) only works correctly for one player (or the last player to choose). There is nothing in the DMD I can use to identify player 1 or 2 , etc to make it work beyond the last player who chose their side.

    If you have video stuttering or artifacts with PuP-Packs with VPX...  you most likely don't have VSYNC properly setup in VPX. Set "FPS Limiter/VSYNC" to 1, and "Maximum Pre-Rendered Frames" to 1 in VPX Video Options. This can also be set per-table in the Table's "User Customization" options, so check that as well.

    Having certain programs running in the background can also cause issues as they may interfere with VLC or prevent Overlays from displaying. Try closing out other programs / processes to see if that helps resolve any issues.

    If the OST music "during gameplay" isn't working correctly then you probably didn't update correctly.

    To make it CLEAR. You MUST be updated "properly" to Pinup System 1.3.7 for this Pack to work "correctly"! Some videos may not be triggering, and the OST Music PuP-Tracks will NOT work correctly without that update! Full instructions for updating and the links are in the Description under REQUIREMENTS.

    For other issues with getting a PuP-Pack to work, refer to the wiki:

    http://www.nailbuster.com/wikipinup/doku.php?id=puppack_troubleshoot

    1.0

    -over 250 different videos for all 19+ modes!

    -6 different video screens always playing at the same time.

    -electrically animated border.

    -optional new PuP-Tracks music (that replaces the mono low quality SAM music). Featuring (high quality stereo) Original Movie Soundtracks from the first 3 movies.

    -overlay still frame

    -Autobot and Decepticon crest and characters that change videos based on which side you choose and what mode you are playing!

    -music will change based on what side you choose. Each side's main music will also be different every game.

    -different music tracks for every mode in the game.

    -Backglass will change it's "Eyes" depending on what side you choose.

    -optional Topper "Eyes" videos that also change with what side you choose. (you can change up the backglass video files so they don't change to better match this option)

    -works with all cabinet configurations (DMD can be positioned in the bottom text area if required)

    -over 220 PuPCapture DMD images being monitored

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    • #98792
      TerryRed
      Moderator
      @terryred
      MemberContributorModerator

      Where do I get version 1.3.7? I have been to the link you added to the install notes but am only seeing up to 1.3.6.

      Thanks,

      Nick

       

      Read it again in the DESCRIPTION….

       

      Then you need to update FROM 1.3.6 TO to 1.3.7 (until a newer update comes out). If these updates are not properly installed, then this PuP-Pack will not work correctly! (make sure there are no blocked files)

      http://www.nailbuster.com/pinupdates/PinUPSystem_update_1_3_7.zip

       

       

       

       

      #98796
      The Loafer
      Participant
      @theloafer
      Member

      dsl mais application traducteur son pas terrible et je parle pas du tout anglais c juste que je lance une partie g bien la music transformers ensuite pour la balle 2 et 3 plus de music pourtant g bien tout a jour meme pris pinup 1.3.7 avec dmdext 1.7.1 et toujour le probleme et encore dsl pour la traduction

      As tu compris la réponse?  D’autre on le même problème, la cause semble être une installation incomplète de 1.3.7

      #98797
      TerryRed
      Moderator
      @terryred
      MemberContributorModerator

      If you are upgrading from 1.3.5 or lower, you MUST “first” update to 1.3.6 and copy the new dmddevicePUP.dll that comes with the 1.3.6 update, into your VPinMAME folder.

      http://www.nailbuster.com/wikipinup/doku.php?id=release_notes

      Then you need to update FROM 1.3.6 TO to 1.3.7 (until a newer update comes out). If these updates are not properly installed, then this PuP-Pack will not work correctly! (make sure there are no blocked files)

      http://www.nailbuster.com/pinupdates/PinUPSystem_update_1_3_7.zip

      #98810
      fusionwerks
      Participant
      @fusionwerks

      I would like to believe that i have followed the instructions to the letter, but i still cannot get this to work.

      The table launches, and the PuP backglass shows, but there is no image on the DMD, and no lights on the table. It will accept coins, but will not start. Same result on JP’s version and Haunts version.

      I also get this script error that i can comment out to launch the table:

      variable is undefined: InitVpmFFlipsSAM

      Sorry, i had a .vbs script in the table folder, bit still no luck on getting this to work

      #98812
      TerryRed
      Moderator
      @terryred
      MemberContributorModerator

      I would like to believe that i have followed the instructions to the letter, but i still cannot get this to work.

      The table launches, and the PuP backglass shows, but there is no image on the DMD, and no lights on the table. It will accept coins, but will not start. Same result on JP’s version and Haunts version.

      I also get this script error that i can comment out to launch the table:

      variable is undefined: InitVpmFFlipsSAM

      Sorry, i had a .vbs script in the table folder, bit still no luck on getting this to work

      Do you have those issues without the Pack running?

      Do other Packs run fine for you?

      No DMD image…need more clarity…are you using real DMD, freezy DMD…pinmame,etc…

      Need to be sure your problems are actually related to this pack and not a generic VPX, pinmame, freezy,etc issue. first.

       

      #98813
      fusionwerks
      Participant
      @fusionwerks

      I don’t have any issues on any other tables

      The only other packs I have are Stranger things and MY table, which are both originals, so i don’t know if that helps since there is no ROM.

      EDIT: i do have BTTF, and it works fine

      i have a 3 screen cabinet setup with a pc monitor for a DMD, so i’m not sure what is running that.

       

      #98815
      TerryRed
      Moderator
      @terryred
      MemberContributorModerator

      I don’t have any issues on any other tables

      The only other packs I have are Stranger things and MY table, which are both originals, so i don’t know if that helps since there is no ROM.

      i have a 3 screen cabinet setup with a pc monitor for a DMD, so i’m not sure what is running that.

      Make sure you dont have other graphics related programs running that may interfere with vlc or overlays.

      Does the table run fine with no pup-pack?

      Since this is a SAM table, its possible you may be getting the table crash from the at91jit setting (common SAM issue, and PuP-Packs bring it out more for some people), especially if using running Win 7.

      run regedit, goto : Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Freeware\Visual PinMame\tf_180

      Change the at91jit to 0.

       

      Check your PUPLOG.txt in VPinMAME folder. It should read something like:

      20180919 11:20:15 Open called
      20180919 11:20:15 Set Game Name thread tf_180
      20180919 11:20:15 Start Thread Matching
      20180919 11:20:15 create PuPCap
      20180919 11:20:15 Init Game name:tf_180
      20180919 11:20:15 Create Object Display
      20180919 11:20:15 imagedir:C:\PinUPSystem\PuPVideos\tf_180\PuPCapture
      20180919 11:20:15 num images 225
      20180919 11:21:53 Free Object Display

       

      Stranger Things doesn’t use a “PuP-Pack” in the same way because it uses PuP commands in table script.

       

       

      #98816
      classicradios
      Participant
      @classicradios

      I would like to believe that i have followed the instructions to the letter, but i still cannot get this to work.

      The table launches, and the PuP backglass shows, but there is no image on the DMD, and no lights on the table. It will accept coins, but will not start. Same result on JP’s version and Haunts version.

      I also get this script error that i can comment out to launch the table:

      variable is undefined: InitVpmFFlipsSAM

      Sorry, i had a .vbs script in the table folder, bit still no luck on getting this to work

      I have this exact same problem when using the tf_180.zip rom from the “TF_PuP-Muted Music .Zip  I too followed the install instructions to the letter.  The Pup Pack works perfectly with my backed up  tf_180.zip rom.  I would like to hear the optional music but I’m happy without unless there is fix.

      #98817
      TerryRed
      Moderator
      @terryred
      MemberContributorModerator

      I would like to believe that i have followed the instructions to the letter, but i still cannot get this to work.

      The table launches, and the PuP backglass shows, but there is no image on the DMD, and no lights on the table. It will accept coins, but will not start. Same result on JP’s version and Haunts version.

      I also get this script error that i can comment out to launch the table:

      variable is undefined: InitVpmFFlipsSAM

      Sorry, i had a .vbs script in the table folder, bit still no luck on getting this to work

      I have this exact same problem when using the tf_180.zip rom from the “TF_PuP-Muted Music .Zip I too followed the install instructions to the letter. The Pup Pack works perfectly with my backed up tf_180.zip rom. I would like to hear the optional music but I’m happy without unless there is fix.

      Do you have “Ignore Rom CRC Errors” enabled in the tables PinMAME settings (press F1 while playing). If not, then the table won’t run because this is a custom Rom.

      #98818
      fusionwerks
      Participant
      @fusionwerks

      no other programs are running in background

      both versions of the table run (and display DMD) without the PuP pack with the original ROM

      Changed the at91jit to 0, but still no change

      and i dont have this file:  PUPLOG.txt in VPinMAME folder

      #98821
      TerryRed
      Moderator
      @terryred
      MemberContributorModerator

      no other programs are running in background

      both versions of the table run (and display DMD) without the PuP pack with the original ROM

      Changed the at91jit to 0, but still no change

      and i dont have this file: PUPLOG.txt in VPinMAME folder

      Do you have “Ignore Rom CRC Errors” enabled in the tables PinMAME settings (press F1 while playing). If not, then the table won’t run because this is a custom Rom.

      #98827
      classicradios
      Participant
      @classicradios

      Yesterday I downloaded the http://www.nailbuster.com/pinupdates/PinUPSystem_update_1_3_7.zip but it only contained 1 file…”PinupDisplay.exe”  am I missing something? I replaced the PinupDisplay.exe  but When I launch PinupMenuSetup it shows version 1.3.6   Could that be the reason I have the pup pack working but not the muted music?

      #98835
      classicradios
      Participant
      @classicradios

      “Ignore Rom CRC Errors”  is enabled and the 1.3.7 zip was unblocked.

      #98836
      fusionwerks
      Participant
      @fusionwerks

      Do you have “Ignore Rom CRC Errors” enabled in the tables PinMAME settings (press F1 while playing). If not, then the table won’t run because this is a custom Rom.

      yes it has always been checked

      Yesterday I downloaded the http://www.nailbuster.com/pinupdates/PinUPSystem_update_1_3_7.zip but it only contained 1 file…”PinupDisplay.exe” am I missing something? I replaced the PinupDisplay.exe but When I launch PinupMenuSetup it shows version 1.3.6 Could that be the reason I have the pup pack working but not the muted music?

      Mine contained the same. 1 file

      #98846
      TerryRed
      Moderator
      @terryred
      MemberContributorModerator

      Do you have “Ignore Rom CRC Errors” enabled in the tables PinMAME settings (press F1 while playing). If not, then the table won’t run because this is a custom Rom.

      yes it has always been checked

      Yesterday I downloaded the http://www.nailbuster.com/pinupdates/PinUPSystem_update_1_3_7.zip but it only contained 1 file…”PinupDisplay.exe” am I missing something? I replaced the PinupDisplay.exe but When I launch PinupMenuSetup it shows version 1.3.6 Could that be the reason I have the pup pack working but not the muted music?

      Mine contained the same. 1 file

      The reason you would use the “Muted Rom”, is because it will have all the music in the rom completely turned off to allow PuP to then play its own music instead of having both play at the same time.

      Using the Muted Rom is just like using any other rom with a VPX table…and it has nothing to do with the PuP-Pack at all. If you can’t get the muted rom to work with just the table and no PuP-Pack, than you have another issue going on there that has nothing to do with PuP or the PuP-Pack.

      Such as possibly not having your VPX 10.5+ up to date, or having PinMAME up to date….

       

      Did you guys properly update to PuP 1.3.6 (which included copying the new dmdevicepup.dll to vpinmame) before updating to 1.3.7? Did you check to be sure none of the files were blocked after updating?

      Yes, the 1.3.7 update is just the one file PinupDisplay.exe. All that is doing is allowing extra features for playing music on screen 4 of PuP (music). If you didn’t update that file then the OST msuic wouldnt play properly after launching a ball,etc.

      Did you guys edit the PuP-PAck and change Screen 4 to “Show” to turn on the PuP-Tracks music?

       

      So two different things here:

      1 –  muted rom…when working without a pup-pack will play like normal…but with no music. So if that isnt working, you have an issue with VPX or PinMAME.

      2 – pup-pack. by default this should work with either rom…and the PuP-Tracks are off by default. Get this working first. If it does…then turn on Screen 4 in pup-pack. If this works and you have 1.3.7 update…then the PuP-Tracks music will play correctly after launching ball and playing. At this point you will want the muted rom because you dont want the roms music playing as well.

       

       

      #98847
      TerryRed
      Moderator
      @terryred
      MemberContributorModerator

      Yesterday I downloaded the http://www.nailbuster.com/pinupdates/PinUPSystem_update_1_3_7.zip but it only contained 1 file…”PinupDisplay.exe” am I missing something? I replaced the PinupDisplay.exe but When I launch PinupMenuSetup it shows version 1.3.6 Could that be the reason I have the pup pack working but not the muted music?

      The 1.3.7 does still show as 1.3.6 when clicked on. That is normal. This is because this was an in-between update just for the changes to how audio is handled.

      If you check the file properties, however it shows as 1.3.7

      Also, note what i wrote above.

       

      #98848
      fusionwerks
      Participant
      @fusionwerks

      The reason you would use the “Muted Rom”, is because it will have all the music in the rom completely turned off to allow PuP to then play its own music instead of having both play at the same time.

      Using the Muted Rom is just like using any other rom with a VPX table…and it has nothing to do with the PuP-Pack at all. If you can’t get the muted rom to work with just the table and no PuP-Pack, than you have another issue going on there that has nothing to do with PuP or the PuP-Pack.

      Such as possibly not having your VPX 10.5+ up to date, or having PinMAME up to date….

      Did you guys properly update to PuP 1.3.6 (which included copying the new dmdevicepup.dll to vpinmame) before updating to 1.3.7? Did you check to be sure none of the files were blocked after updating?

      Yes, the 1.3.7 update is just the one file PinupDisplay.exe. All that is doing is allowing extra features for playing music on screen 4 of PuP (music). If you didn’t update that file then the OST msuic wouldnt play properly after launching a ball,etc.

      Did you guys edit the PuP-PAck and change Screen 4 to “Show” to turn on the PuP-Tracks music?

      So two different things here:

      1 – muted rom…when working without a pup-pack will play like normal…but with no music. So if that isnt working, you have an issue with VPX or PinMAME.

      2 – pup-pack. by default this should work with either rom…and the PuP-Tracks are off by default. Get this working first. If it does…then turn on Screen 4 in pup-pack. If this works and you have 1.3.7 update…then the PuP-Tracks music will play correctly after launching ball and playing. At this point you will want the muted rom because you dont want the roms music playing as well.

      Thanks Terry, i will continue this tomorrow. I am way to frustrated to continue tonight.

      #98850
      TerryRed
      Moderator
      @terryred
      MemberContributorModerator

      Yesterday I downloaded the http://www.nailbuster.com/pinupdates/PinUPSystem_update_1_3_7.zip but it only contained 1 file…”PinupDisplay.exe” am I missing something? I replaced the PinupDisplay.exe but When I launch PinupMenuSetup it shows version 1.3.6 Could that be the reason I have the pup pack working but not the muted music?

      Also…you could also for testing…try to remove the normal 960MB pup-pack, and install the Music only pack. That Pack is ready to go to play the OST music. So if that works for playing the OST music through all your gameplay (with any rom) then you know that 1.3.7 is working.

      Then get the muted rom working, and you should only hear the OST music.

      If that works..the replace the music only pack with the 960MB Pack, and set Screen 4 in the PuP-PAck to Show.

      #98851
      classicradios
      Participant
      @classicradios

      Yesterday I downloaded the http://www.nailbuster.com/pinupdates/PinUPSystem_update_1_3_7.zip but it only contained 1 file…”PinupDisplay.exe” am I missing something? I replaced the PinupDisplay.exe but When I launch PinupMenuSetup it shows version 1.3.6 Could that be the reason I have the pup pack working but not the muted music?

      Also…you could also for testing…try to remove the normal 960MB pup-pack, and install the Music only pack. That Pack is ready to go to play the OST music. So if that works for playing the OST music through all your gameplay (with any rom) then you know that 1.3.7 is working.

      Then get the muted rom working, and you should only hear the OST music.

      If that works..the replace the music only pack with the 960MB Pack, and set Screen 4 in the PuP-PAck to Show.

      You were correct! My Pinmame was outdated(3.0)  I updated to 3.1 and it solved all my problems.  I’m still learning and appreciate your help and patience Terry.  Pack is working great now with the Muted Music rom.  Thank You!!

      #98857
      TerryRed
      Moderator
      @terryred
      MemberContributorModerator

      Yesterday I downloaded the http://www.nailbuster.com/pinupdates/PinUPSystem_update_1_3_7.zip but it only contained 1 file…”PinupDisplay.exe” am I missing something? I replaced the PinupDisplay.exe but When I launch PinupMenuSetup it shows version 1.3.6 Could that be the reason I have the pup pack working but not the muted music?

      Also…you could also for testing…try to remove the normal 960MB pup-pack, and install the Music only pack. That Pack is ready to go to play the OST music. So if that works for playing the OST music through all your gameplay (with any rom) then you know that 1.3.7 is working.

      Then get the muted rom working, and you should only hear the OST music.

      If that works..the replace the music only pack with the 960MB Pack, and set Screen 4 in the PuP-PAck to Show.

      You were correct! My Pinmame was outdated(3.0) I updated to 3.1 and it solved all my problems. I’m still learning and appreciate your help and patience Terry. Pack is working great now with the Muted Music rom. Thank You!!

      This is good though….that let me know to add VPX 10.5,  and newest B2s Server, and SAM 3.2 beta as a requirement with links provided for those who many not know.

      Glad its working!

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