$500 full size cab. Can it be done? Let’s find out.

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  • #184407
    topper-2k
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      @topper-2k

      I added SSF to this cabinet. You can read about it here.

      #196792
      XenapZ
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        @xenapz

        Awesome build man, how did you go about making the lockdown bar?

        #196818
        topper-2k
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          @topper-2k

          Awesome build man, how did you go about making the lockdown bar?

          It’s just wood painted with silver spray paint.

          I used two pieces of wood. The top is what you see. It has a rabbet routed in the top edge for the glass to tuck under.

          The second piece is screwed to the bottom of the first one. It wedges in between the front of the cab and a wood rail that’s attached to the playfield TV.

          Initially I planned on holding it in place with velcro or magnets. But it doesn’t need it. It’s a tight fit. Pressure does the job.

          #197027
          topper-2k
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            @topper-2k

            Here are some photos of the lockdown bar. Note, I need to redo this because of a mistake I made with the siderails.

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            #217077
            topper-2k
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              @topper-2k

              It’s been a while, but I finally had some time to update this thread. In addition to the SSF mentioned above, I’ve added LED strips and a rear LED matrix. The grand total having added those came to $702.

              I also made a few upgrades including a new motherboard (that would let me overclock my CPU) and a new GPU (GTX 1060). I didn’t really need those things. The cab ran more than fine without them. But I like to tinker and found some good deals. In keeping with the purpose of this build (to show you don’t have to spend thousands of dollars to get into this hobby) I’ve tracked those costs separately. My real-world total is now $807. It’s all detailed in the budget.

              Here are some photos of the LEDs. I used the PAL from Oak Micros as my LED controller and I highly recommend it. The matrix panels came from AliExpress and I already had the LED strips left over from another project.

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              #217082
              JR
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                @jfr1

                Video blocked?

                #217084
                topper-2k
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                  @topper-2k

                  Video blocked?

                  Hmmm… it’s set to public. Can you see it on YouTube?

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                  #217089
                  JR
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                    @jfr1

                    Blocked on “copyright grounds.”  You have any music playing??

                    #217116
                    topper-2k
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                      @topper-2k

                      Blocked on “copyright grounds.” You have any music playing??

                      It’s the AC/DC table, so probably. I’ll try and find another video.

                      #217119
                      topper-2k
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                        @topper-2k

                        For now, here’s a different link to the same video.

                        https://photos.app.goo.gl/g8pUwVfbkBr4m9UF7

                        #217141
                        JR
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                          @jfr1

                          That’s pretty sweet.

                          #220785
                          topper-2k
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                            @topper-2k

                            The $260 4k Upgrade

                            I’ve been loving my $500 pinball cab (which with SSF and LEDs grew into a $700 cab). And honestly, I’ve been quite happy with 1080p for my playfield resolution.

                            But I bought myself an Oculus Quest 2 for Christmas. It’s great stand alone but I wanted to see what’s possible when connected to a PC. I don’t have a gaming PC that meets the Oculus Link requirements, so if I’m investing in one, I decided to invest in my pincab.

                            This particular post isn’t about going for full VR. It’s about what it took to upgrade my $500 1080p pin cab to 4k. I added a 4k tab to the budget doc if you want to check that out. I’d already made a few PC upgrades, not because I needed them for 1080p, but because I got good deals (a new motherboard that would let me overclock the CPU and a GTX 1060 3GB GPU). Then I lucked into an open box deal on a Vizio v405 4k TV that will fit my cab. Snagged it at Best Buy for $168.

                            The big surprise (for me anyway) was that my GTX 1060 3GB card (bought for $75 before the gpu bubble) is pulling off 4k. I’d read lots of minimum sys requirements that said you needed a 1070 or 1660 Super as a starting point for 4k. A few people told me they were running 4k on 1060 6GB cards, but it sounded like a stretch and expecting my 3GB to manage was asking too much. But to my surprise the little card is up to the task.

                            Current Specs:

                            • Asus P7H55D-M Pro motherboard
                            • i5 760 cpu
                            • 16 GB DDR3 ram
                            • GTX 1060 3Gb GPU

                            Here are some screenshots comparing 1080 to 4k on one of the tables where I noticed the biggest difference.

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                            simpsons

                            I tried to grab some video of the playfield to show that the ball movement is still smooth and fluid with no stutter. But my screengrab software didn’t do a good job capturing it at the full 60fps. So you’ll have to take my word for it.

                            Check the budget if you want more details on components and costs. If you’re keeping tabs at home, that’s a totally viable 4k full size pinball cab for $769. Add in the LEDs and SSF and it’s still under $1k ($966).

                            Woot! Again, I’m sharing these numbers and my detailed budget because I don’t want people to think they have to spend a fortune to get into this hobby.

                            I’ve got more upgrades to make in order to meet the sys requirements for Oculus Link. In fact, I’ll end up with a completely new PC. The only components I’m saving are the SSD and the power supply. So this is the last chapter in my budget build. Once I cross the $1,000 mark I don’t think I can continue to call this a budget pin cab, no matter how frugal I manage to be.

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                            JR
                            #220877
                            Tom
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                              @armyaviation

                              Gonna have to pick your brain on the addressable setup.  On the back matrix, Is that the standard, 1 big panel and 2 small ones? How do they connect together and what is the end size so I can check my cab.  Did you follow a tutorial that you can recommend

                              #220892
                              topper-2k
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                                @topper-2k

                                Gonna have to pick your brain on the addressable setup. On the back matrix, Is that the standard, 1 big panel and 2 small ones? How do they connect together and what is the end size so I can check my cab. Did you follow a tutorial that you can recommend

                                Yes, it’s a standard 8×32 paired with two 8×8 matrixes. They come with wires and plugs to daisy chain them together, plus extra leads to inject power every so often. I used the PAL from Oak Micros. It’s a preprogrammed teensy with screw terminals. It comes with a very thorough setup guide. You can find more info about Oak Micros on vpforum.

                                #220895
                                Tom
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                                  @armyaviation

                                  Can you measure the full back led grid so I can check my cab for size?  Thanks

                                  #220896
                                  topper-2k
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                                    @topper-2k

                                    Can you measure the full back led grid so I can check my cab for size? Thanks

                                    Off the top of my head, I know the interior of my cab is 21″ wide and there’s a little space (an inch or so) on each side of the matrix. I’d have to take off my playfield glass and remove the tinted plexi covering my matrix to get a measurement. You can find the dimensions online. Just add up the width of each panel.

                                    #221125
                                    JR
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                                      @jfr1

                                      Good stuff.  Thanks for taking time to post all this.  I’ve had a 4k Vizio in my Best Buy cart for a few days.  I know it’s not top-shelf but you just answered some questions I had.  Much appreciated.

                                      #221136
                                      topper-2k
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                                        @topper-2k

                                        Good stuff. Thanks for taking time to post all this. I’ve had a 4k Vizio in my Best Buy cart for a few days. I know it’s not top-shelf but you just answered some questions I had. Much appreciated.

                                        I haven’t been able to mess with the Vizio much yet. I have to redo my playfield mounting system because my original playfield was de-cased and didn’t have Vesa mounts. I just laid the Vizio on top of my glass for testing. So I can’t tell you much about it.

                                        I also didn’t have any other options. The v405 is literally the only 4k screen that will fit my cab. It’s 20.5″ tall without the stand and my cab is 21″ wide. It’s technically a 39.5″ screen even though they bill it as 40″. I haven’t been able to find anyone else who makes a 4k TV this size. There might be some monitors, but those would be way out of my budget. So it was either this TV or major modifications to my cab.

                                        I wish I could tell you more about it. I’ll know more after I complete the VR upgrades.

                                         

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