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  • #168324
    dinonel
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    @dinonel

    Hello All,

    I am new the the VP world and am doing my first cabinet build.   I have started configuring the computer using the set up guides and have the necessary software installed and am able to bring up and run pinball machines. Yeah!.

    I did notice something odd on the pins that I have installed, that is there are tiny squares that are not being rendered on the Jurassic Park and Twilight zone tables (the only two I have tried).  The un-rendered squares seem to be in about the same locations. I check the forums and RYSr sounded like he had a similar problem with his RX580 back  in 2018 and NailbBuster suggested the “alternate depth processing” setting.   The weird thing is when I checked that box and restarted the program, the tiny squares not being rendered was fixed but I had a lot of other artifacts blinking and appearing around the dinosaur animation.  When the dinosaur moved it would leave a bunch of black squares.  So it actually got worse…

    Anyone had similar problems?  Any ideas on how to fix?

    I added a picture you can see on on the triceratops nose and a couple down and to the right.

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    #168331
    Dark
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    @dark
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    Hey dinonel, welcome!

    I was going to suggest using alternative depth processing but I see you’ve already tried that.  I think perhaps, that if you are serious enough about this endeavor that you would build a dedicated pincab for it that maybe you should consider a better video card.  From what I’ve observed over the years on the forums here and more so on vpf, AMD’s have caused a variety of issues with VP for people over the years.  The old standard for recommended video card was a Geforce 780ti, but now with more demanding, realistic and high resolution tables coming out the new recommended card is Geforce 1080ti.

    There may be a fix for it, a direct x update or something missing but it’s strange that it’s mostly working with the exception of the small squares.  Other than the squares how does it play?  Is there any visible ball stutter on Jurassic Park during multiball or flasher strobe sequences?

    3dcreation

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    #168383
    dinonel
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    @dinonel

    Thanks for the suggestion.  I have talked with my son about swapping video cards. (He has the one you recommend).   I am also concerned that my computer and video card may be a bit overpowered for what I need in a dedicated cabinet.   We will see….

    I am planning on getting all the electronics working and laid out before I build the physical cabinet.

    As for the games they seem to play fine.  I am going to try future pinball tonight and see if it has the same issue.

    Thanks again

    #168387
    Dark
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    @dark
    vipMemberContributor

    If you have a powerful set up it just means you can make use of more anti-aliasing and other video options to improve the visuals.  You can customize settings for each table as some are much more demanding than others.  For a lesser demanding EM table you can probably get away with 4x brute force AA but on more demanding tables it will cause stutter.  The 4x AA costs a lot in performance but smooths the more stubborn jaggies pretty nicely.

    3dcreation

    #170083
    DukeAtomic
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    @duke000088

    I have the same card and exactly the same issue.

    I have not attempted to tackle it yet.  Honestly, I’m just putting the finishing touches on my build.  While I noticed the issue right away, I chalked it up as relatively minor and figured I would circle back later.  99% of the time I don’t even notice it.   For the time being, I’m pretending its “virtual dirt” and adds a nice patina effect to the playfield :)

    Sorry I can’t offer advice on fixing it.  But at least we know it’s not our own individual systems.  And for what its worth, that 5700 XT is a SCREAMER overall for the price.  Another reason I wasn’t too upset about the pixel issue.

    #170100
    dinonel
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    @dinonel

    It is great not to be alone.   If I cannot find a fix I have an Nvidia 1070 that I can swap with my son and try that instead.

    I will post back if I find a fix.  I am using the latest drivers…

    #182317
    lionraw
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    @lionraw

    Hi i have the same issue , with vpx and my 5700xt see attached screen shots .. ive tried so many settings and different drivers and its still an issue.  Have updated bios etc, and have no other issue with the card except for in vpx. Bearable but still annoying.

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    #206160
    keithwhite
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    @keithwhite

    My son talked me into getting the 5700 XT too because he uses it for his gaming system and loves it.  I ordered it from Newegg this week and of course once I got it in and going, there’s the pixelated squares.  Did anyone ever find a solution to this issue or is that card just not going to get it done in VPX?

     

    #206300
    rgarriott
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    @rgarriott
    Member

    I had the same issue and found the fix. I went to the Amd site and downloaded the latest sapphire updates. Worked like a charm. Everything is clear and smooth , no pixelated screen. Be sure to have alternate buffering selected in your video options. Hope it works for ya.

    #206322
    keithwhite
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    @keithwhite

    @rgarriott, Thanks for the advice!!  Is there a specific way to get Saphire updates?  It seems AMD just has the Adrenaline Software which auto detects the drivers and there not much options to pick anything manually.  I’m searching for Saphire software but not having any luck.  I’ve gotten all the latest updates and it’s still looking like a Minecraft made pinball table lol.

    #206325
    keithwhite
    Participant
    @keithwhite

    @dark @duke000088 @dinonel @lionraw @rgarriott, I got it going!!! I think this is what happened.  I swapped out the old graphics card to the new 5700.  You have to download the Radeon Adrenaline Software for the drivers and such.  When it installs, you would think everything is up to date since it queues a restart of your system.  After the restart,   I tried playing a VPX table and of course had blocky looking textures.   I made sure the buffering option was checked and still had blocky tables.  After calming down because I thought I just bought a $450 paperweight, I came here and saw that others had problems too, so I wasn’t alone.   @rgarriott mentioned the Saphire update.  I looked for Saphire on the AMD site, but I think it’s for a specific brand of card.  Once again, I opened the Adrenaline AMD software looking for options or settings that I thought might help.  On the System tab there was a notification saying that I needed to install the latest update.  Once I let it do it’s thing and then restarted again, I opened VPX and everything is perfect!!   Hopefully this will help you guys!!  The Adrenaline Software just needed to update drivers again after the initial install.

    #206330
    rgarriott
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    @rgarriott
    Member

    Im glad it worked out for ya. I misspoke when I said to update the sapphire, it was the Radeon drivers I updated.

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