backglass db2s slow your system?

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  • #89858
    uturnweb
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      @uturnweb

      Hey guys! Anyone else experience massive skipped frames when using an animated directb2s backglass? When I remove them from my tables directory I get huge improvements. Anyone have a solve for this? No sweat if not, but I do love an animated bg :)

      Grant

       

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      #89859
      randr
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        @randr
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        What’s your specs? B2s should not normally effect anything to much but some backglasses are hogs.

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        #89941
        uturnweb
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          @uturnweb

          It seems to be on the majority of the tables. Worse when there are lots of flashing lights like AcDC / MM  / TOMMY etc..

          My Specs:

          PC:

          Intel Core i7-4790S CPU @ 3.20GHz, 12GB RAM | 64Bit
          GTX 970 4GB graphics card
          SSD (OS and pinball), HDD (music storage)

          Cabinet:
          Firepower 2 cab
          38″ Vizio TV D-Series (2018) PF
          32″ Samsung monitor BG
          ZebsBoards Digital Output / plunger kit
          PinDMD v3 DMD display

           

          PC: Intel Core i7-4790S CPU @ 3.20GHz, 12GB RAM, 64Bit, GTX 970 4GB graphics card, SSD (OS and pinball), HDD (music storage) 
          Cabinet: Firepower 2 cab, 38" Vizio TV D-Series (2018) PF, 32" Samsung monitor BG, ZebsBoards Digital Output / plunger kit, PinDMD v3 DMD display

          #89943
          Thalamus
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            @thalamus
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            Your computer should not have those kind of problems. Your CPU is better than what I have in my pin and the GPU is better than what I used to have. Never had issues with db2s like you describe. You don’ẗ have antivirus/defender running ?

            #89944
            randr
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              @randr
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              Can you provide a screenshot of your visual pinball video preferences? I bet you have something in there not setup correctly…vsync, exclusive full screen, AO… a screenshot would sure make it easier

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              #89950
              Daryl
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                @allknowing2012
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                What was that magic b2s setting – run as exe mode? (right click on the backglass)

                #89951
                randr
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                  @randr
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                  What was that magic b2s setting – run as exe mode? (right click on the backglass)

                  yes I think your right…but some people say say smoother without “exe” mode so maybe try whatever setting b2s is. It set to. Good catch Daryl

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                  #89954
                  uturnweb
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                    @uturnweb

                    Thanks guys. I’ll try with AV and WDefender off. The b2s is the same with/without run as exe.

                    Screenshot to follow.

                    PC: Intel Core i7-4790S CPU @ 3.20GHz, 12GB RAM, 64Bit, GTX 970 4GB graphics card, SSD (OS and pinball), HDD (music storage) 
                    Cabinet: Firepower 2 cab, 38" Vizio TV D-Series (2018) PF, 32" Samsung monitor BG, ZebsBoards Digital Output / plunger kit, PinDMD v3 DMD display

                    #89955
                    uturnweb
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                      @uturnweb

                      Here is my vpx video settings modal

                      PC: Intel Core i7-4790S CPU @ 3.20GHz, 12GB RAM, 64Bit, GTX 970 4GB graphics card, SSD (OS and pinball), HDD (music storage) 
                      Cabinet: Firepower 2 cab, 38" Vizio TV D-Series (2018) PF, 32" Samsung monitor BG, ZebsBoards Digital Output / plunger kit, PinDMD v3 DMD display

                      #89957
                      uturnweb
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                        @uturnweb

                        And here is my VP9.93

                        PC: Intel Core i7-4790S CPU @ 3.20GHz, 12GB RAM, 64Bit, GTX 970 4GB graphics card, SSD (OS and pinball), HDD (music storage) 
                        Cabinet: Firepower 2 cab, 38" Vizio TV D-Series (2018) PF, 32" Samsung monitor BG, ZebsBoards Digital Output / plunger kit, PinDMD v3 DMD display

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                        #89959
                        randr
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                          @randr
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                          You should have FPS and pre rendered both at 1 typically and I bet if you switch to exclusive full screen you will be good.  You could also try unchecking ambient occlusion as well but exclusive full screen is probably the issue for vpx. For vp9 FPS/pre render set both to 1

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                          #89969
                          uturnweb
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                            @uturnweb

                            When I set exclusive full screen it crashes the table. ( loads and then closes)

                            PC: Intel Core i7-4790S CPU @ 3.20GHz, 12GB RAM, 64Bit, GTX 970 4GB graphics card, SSD (OS and pinball), HDD (music storage) 
                            Cabinet: Firepower 2 cab, 38" Vizio TV D-Series (2018) PF, 32" Samsung monitor BG, ZebsBoards Digital Output / plunger kit, PinDMD v3 DMD display

                            #89971
                            randr
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                              @randr
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                              Try this…

                              http://vpinball.com/wiki/visual-pinball-knowledge-base/turning-onoff-at91jit/

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                              #89972
                              Thalamus
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                                @thalamus
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                                Fullscreen – you have to change ddraw to 0 in registry. Easiest way. Open regedit – export – search replace – save – double click – accept.

                                #89984
                                randr
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                                  @randr
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                                  Thalamus is correct! Forgot about direct draw. You can use setdmd or the new vp tools I think even to set them all correctly for exclusive full screen.

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                                  #89987
                                  uturnweb
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                                    @uturnweb

                                    Cool there’s a VP tool that can edit registry for me?

                                    PC: Intel Core i7-4790S CPU @ 3.20GHz, 12GB RAM, 64Bit, GTX 970 4GB graphics card, SSD (OS and pinball), HDD (music storage) 
                                    Cabinet: Firepower 2 cab, 38" Vizio TV D-Series (2018) PF, 32" Samsung monitor BG, ZebsBoards Digital Output / plunger kit, PinDMD v3 DMD display

                                    #89988
                                    randr
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                                      @randr
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                                      https://www.pinballbulbs.com/files/setdmd.html

                                      or…

                                      http://vpinball.com/forums/topic/setdmd-alternative/

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                                      #90025
                                      uturnweb
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                                        @uturnweb

                                        Thanks guys! DDRAW disable really helps :) and I do’nt have to disable Ambient Occ. !

                                        Does this only apply to VPX tables? Or are 8 & 9 affected by it too?

                                         

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                                        #90027
                                        Thalamus
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                                          @thalamus
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                                          My advice. Don’t worry about the old stuff. It is as hopeless as believing FP one day will play well. B-)

                                          #91110
                                          Gilrock
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                                            @gilrock
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                                            I’m curious how you know you have skipped frames.  Is there somewhere that is logged or are you just visually noticing it?  Reason I ask is I’ve had this annoying backglass flashing issue for years.  It only happens in Visual Pinball (9 or X) and its been happening with 2 different computers.  I just bought all new PC stuff so I know it’s not the hardware.  If I play FP the backglass is rock solid. If I run Stranger Things which is a VPX table the backglass is perfect but it’s not using a B2S backglass so I really believe it’s a B2S problem I’ve never been able to solve.

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