October 9, 2020 at 11:27 am #203939
Here's my attempt at a recreation of Ballyhoo from 1932. It's probably not a 'perfect' recreation, but I'm happy with how it turned out - especially considering it's my first recreation - so I'd like to share it with you all.
Huge thanks to mfuegemann for creating the "Cavalcade" table I tore apart and put back together as this table. Thanks also to randr for recreating the "Worlds Fair Jigsaw" flipperless table, which inspired me to try recreating another table from the early days of pinball. I'm more of a Gottlieb fan, but the primitives needed for "Baffle Ball" seemed to difficult for me to tackle. So I decided to instead recreate "Ballyhoo" which was inspired by Gottlieb's "Baffle Ball." Ballyhoo is another pinball pioneer and the namesake of the Bally Manufacturing Company, which went on to create lots of other pinball classics, so it felt like a good one to attempt. Hopefully my recreation also inspires someone to go off and remake another early table for people to enjoy.
***Additional Thank You's*** - Thanks to The Internet Pinball Database community for posting images of this table to refer to. I was able to recreate the instruction cards and "BALLYHOO" text at the top using some nice close-ups from the site. - Thank you to people like ninuzzu, JP, and all the other people's code that finds its way into almost everyone's tables to make them work. - Thanks to Jopp for giving me good instructions on how to add sounds for when the ball collides with the pins in my version 1.2 update - Thanks to the vpinball community for welcoming my first table recreation with enthusiasm and nice comments.
***Notes*** - This table comes in a 10 ball and 7 ball version (as did the original Ballyhoo tables). One can be fairly easily converted from one version into the other. But for version 1.3, I've opted to release both version in ready-to-go forms at once for convenience and in case people want to easily switch back and forth between two tables. - The score reels/ball counter/highscore tape should be able to be turned off in the script. - I've never played a real Ballyhoo table before. I did my best to make my recreation at least 'look' as close to the real thing as I can manage. Perfect recreation or not, I hope it's fun to play and gives people an idea what bagatelle games were like.
Anyway, I hope you like it!
Version 1.3 update - Thank you to everyone for downloading the previous versions of this table! I'm very happy to see people enjoying it. I plan for this to be the final version of my Ballyhoo recreation (assuming people don't find any bugs that need patched). Once again, thanks to everyone for making my first table recreation feel like such a success!
All logos, copyrights, & trademarks that happen to appear in this game are the property of their respective owners.
Table created for personal use & is not for resale
Permission to mod - Yes, with approval
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereOctober 9, 2020 at 12:04 pm #203956bordModerator@bordOctober 9, 2020 at 1:23 pm #203965JoppParticipant@joppnlOctober 9, 2020 at 1:33 pm #203966DidacParticipant@serabile
Great job! It reminds me a pinballs I used to do when I was 7 years old. A piece of wood, nails, rubber bands, a hammer and some damaged fingers. As pop bumpers I used the beer bottle caps. I really love it!
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You need to login in order to like this post: click hereOctober 9, 2020 at 6:35 pm #203995flstclasicParticipant@flstclasicOctober 9, 2020 at 11:14 pm #204022
This is too cool. Thanks @warbler33 !! Perfect companion table to both Star-Light and World’s Fair. I really appreciate it when someone takes the time to bring these relics to life. I’ve been eyeing a 1933 Merry Go Round on c-list. Early ‘pin’ like this – but circular!
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereOctober 10, 2020 at 3:59 am #204030xphilou29Participant@xphilou29October 10, 2020 at 8:41 am #204037HSMParticipant@hsmagic
Very nice. I gave the primitive pins a hit event to get the sound.
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereOctober 10, 2020 at 10:18 am #204058
Thanks for mentioning Star-Light, @jfr1 ! I had not seen that one before, but now I have it downloaded to play later.
And let me just take this opportunity to thank everyone for their nice comments and their interest in the table. It’s been roughly 24 hours and I already have 150 downloads!! I’m happy to see so many people find these older tables as interesting as I do. Hopefully mine inspires someone to go off and make another
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereOctober 10, 2020 at 2:00 pm #204084JoppParticipant@joppnl
As HSM says: it’s very much more fun to have a sound when the ball hits the pins and the good news is:
it’s very simple to do, all script and sound is already there!
Here’s a little how_to:
1) Make sure you have Options “on” (orange line) and press Select (green line)
2) From that list choose Pins (COL).
Now…it might look that VPX has ‘frozen’ but as there are a lot of pins this takes a few seconds…just be patient (talking to myself….. )
3) As you turned the Options on you;ll see this menu on the right:
select Physics and enable ‘has hit event’ and put the value 1 as threshold_value
Actually….that’s all! (as said: script is ready, sounds are already there)
But….in my case I couldn’t hear the colliding ball->pin well enough so I raised the volume:
3) open sound manager (F2) and select pinhit_low and press ‘Position’
4) set volume (right slider) all to max (=down)
Press OK, save table and enjoy.
When you have full SSF you can hear the ball hit the pins on the left or right where ever the ball is at that moment very well….
My favorite pinball machine?
Where I can put my name on as Grand Champion....
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereOctober 10, 2020 at 6:34 pm #204128
Thank you for such clear and well laid out instructions, @joppnl !! You inspired me to go back and tweak some other sounds effects as well. I’ll try to get an update added shortly for anyone interested in having a few more/new sound effects. But thanks again to Jopp – it was very nice of you to take time and explain how to do that
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereOctober 10, 2020 at 10:04 pm #204145
Wow @joppnl … ditto what warbler wrote. How the heck did you know this stuff? Now I’m going to be up all night trying to import the more metallic sound from randr’s WF. I grew up with a table top Gold Star ‘pin’ game from Lindstrom, and even with marbles, it has a very metallic ‘ting’. I am having a BLAST playing this. The score counter, sticky note and light bulb/ball count – love these. Hope you stay with this table @warbler33 …shadows?
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You need to login in order to like this post: click hereOctober 10, 2020 at 11:05 pm #204147joeplainfieldParticipant@joeplainfield
Thank you for this. Love that you took the time to bring an original back to life. Saw some old ones on VP8, but this raises the bar immeasurably. There’s definitely something to be said about the old simple games. Everyone likes to talk about the Addams Family being the biggest selling pinball of all time, but it wasn’t. Not even close. (Rockola’s World Series in 1934 was). These old games were magic then, and still are now. Bally Hoo started it all 2 years earlier.
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You need to login in order to like this post: click hereOctober 11, 2020 at 9:20 am #204179freestlzParticipant@freestlzOctober 11, 2020 at 4:55 pm #204326
Thanks for the picture, @jfr1 ! It’s fun to see my table on someone else’s setup and that Gold Star sure looks cool! As for your praise of the counter/highscore pieces – I wish I could take credit. Those were parts of the “Cavalcade” visual table I gutted to make Ballyhoo. (I definitely recommend that table to everyone who’s enjoying mine! I think it’s over at vpforums). And shadows, you say? I’d be happy to look into it! No promises how long it’ll take to get an updated file posted, though. I got version 1.2 out quickly because the pin sounds seemed like a popular request and Jopp laid out the instructions so clearly that it was a snap to add. Also, if I make a change as significant as shadows, I might want to revisit a few other things on the table.
And once again, let me just say thank you to everyone downloading the table and telling me how much you’re enjoying it. As joeplainfield mentioned, there was an older version of this table online, but I didn’t think it was really cutting it anymore. (Understandably! Visual Pinball seems to have advanced quite a bit between then and now). I’m glad to know people are enjoying my updated version. That was really the goal all along.
Hopefully I’ll be able to share an even better updated version one of these days. But, until then, thanks again for all of your support on my first release! It means a lot.
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereOctober 12, 2020 at 8:24 pm #204452sousda1Participant@sousda1
Thank you Warbler33! This table looks great, my toddler is gonna have a blast, he really just loves doing the plunger, so this will be perfect for him.
Quick question, when i try to play, is there a specific button i need to be pressing to setup the ball? I toss in coins, but the game doesnt ever eject a ball. Not sure what im missing here? Thanks!
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereOctober 12, 2020 at 8:32 pm #204453October 12, 2020 at 8:48 pm #204455sousda1Participant@sousda1
Well, I feel like a dolt lol. Tried everything except the flippers haha. *facepalm*
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereOctober 14, 2020 at 7:08 am #204673STATParticipant@stefanaustriaOctober 14, 2020 at 1:16 pm #204746
I just uploaded version 1.3. I plan for this to be my last update to the table (assuming nobody finds any glitches I need to address). I had zero expectations for how my first table recreation was going to go, so I’m very happy to say that it feels like a complete success! So thanks once again to everyone for your downloads and nice comments. I’m not sure if/when I’ll have another project to share, but I hope you continue to enjoy Ballyhoo!
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