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    Itchigo
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    I’m finally changing the old CRT in my Williams Defender to a flatscreen. The screen has been on it’s last legs for like 20 years, it needs a rebuild. I have the old tube tv out, and the flatscreen in and mounted. I am using this converter to go from the 6 wire plug to the old monitor to the converter. So I’m swapping an Electrohome G07 monitor for a Goldfinger flatscreen. (My dad is an operator and gave me the flatscreen which was designed just for this, it’s not for a computer).

    The only inputs on the monitor are HDMI, DVI, and VGA (I am using VGA).

    I am using a GBS 8200 converter board.

    Power to my board is a 5v 4a power supply (only 2a required, and I have also tried a second power supply, also 4a). The monitor is powered from the old CRT power wires.

    That leaves me 6 wires to worry about.

    Red to Red

    Green to Green

    Blue to Blue

    Ground to Ground            (I am 99.9% sure these are right!!)

    VS to VS

    HS to S (Signal?)

    There is no HS connection on the board, only a blank space. The next space over is “S”, that’s why I have my HS connected there. I have also tried moving the connection from S to the empty space of HS, making it HS to HS.

    Watch very closely at :20. This is what I get when I turn it on. Has anyone run into this before?

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    • This topic was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by Itchigo.
    • This topic was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by Itchigo.
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    Itchigo
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    @itchigo

    Here’s the GBS 8200 board I’m using.

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    #197960
    Diguelo
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    A couple of things you need to be made aware of in this and other Arcade cabs.

    The old CRT screens, although functional and weighing a tons had a device on board called a LOPTi Line output transformer that handled the frame voltage and scatter magnets on the tube, all driven by a frame chip arrangemnet on the motherboard. A straight forward one to one swap isnt likely to produce a result your looking for. The frame looks like its falling out of sync by the way its collapsing off to one corner after bootup. This was a regular chip issue in CRT monitors and TV sets back in the dim and distant past.

    Ive had a scout through on Youtube and there are a few people on there that have made this modification to their machines, Asteroids, Gorf, etc and suceeded with a modification setup. Usually the power supply board rund the logic and the screen input used to be like trying to make a VGA socket output drive a DVI plug, unless you know the Pin outs, the voltages, syncs etc all I can say is put on a blindfold.

    Recommendation get the circuit diagram for the boards as they exist now and the controls etc, most systems today run on a 5V supply some of the older games had 12V.

    Getting the V sync and Hsync to tally together is going to be a problem and there should be an interface available to do this but just posting a picture of a board doesnt provide the information needed.

    As for the frame drop thats a definate chip issue. Sorry but its a case of scour “Youtube” and avoid the cat videos at all costs or itll take months. Search Repairing asteroids machine as a start.

    Ill look up any info and post it here for you.

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    #197997
    Itchigo
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    @itchigo

    I somewhat got it going. I consulted one of my dad’s friends who is an expert in the industry. It doesn’t flicker anymore, but it is dim. It may be a matter of adjustment now, but I haven’t worked on it anymore.  I guess if it frustrates me too much I’ll find an old tv and throw it in. :)

    It’s funny, when I was an operator I always shyed away from tv repair. Now I don’t know what I was so afraid of.

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    #199832
    Diguelo
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    @diguelo

    So basically then you tore out a CRT based video display and hot wired in a flat screen that had a frame collapse. Now it works but is dim.

    And all this with no consultation of circuit diagrams, voltage tables and stuff.

    Truely amazing, very well done.

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