February 4, 2019 at 2:12 pm #112837
I spent some time working on an installer and automatic builds recently. If anyone happens to be on anything other than Windows 10 64-bit, a quick test would be appreciated.
The installer does the following:
- Searches for VPM and copies the DLL to the VPM folder
- Also copies DmdExt.ini to the VPM folder if not there yet, and sets the DMDDEVICE_CONFIG environment variable so it’s always found
- Searches for Pro Pinball and copies the launcher .bat file to Pro Pinball folder
- Installs dmdext.exe into the Program Files folder and adds it to the environment PATH
More info here.
Once I merge this you’ll also get automatic builds by the CI. For example, the build of the last commit can be found here (click on the platform you’re interested in and under Artifacts you’ll see the downloads, the installer is the .msi file, but a zip file with all the files gets created as well).
Any feedback welcome!
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereFebruary 4, 2019 at 2:29 pm #112840ThalamusModerator
Uh. This means you will only distribute via an installer ?
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereFebruary 4, 2019 at 2:32 pm #112842February 4, 2019 at 2:39 pm #112844ThalamusModerator
Yeah. I understand the reason behind using a installer. Hopefully less dumb questions :) I’m just not so happy with running installers when I’m trying to find a problem. I see that you explain exactly what it does and that is always a good thing.
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereFebruary 4, 2019 at 2:45 pm #112845
First, there will always be a zip file. Second, the difficulty of dmdext is not really the installation. It’s to understand and configure all the programs using it, and the installer doesn’t do that. What the installer does is save you time and encourages people to upgrade because you don’t need to re-read all the installation instructions on every upgrade, you just double click and hit next until you’re done.
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereFebruary 4, 2019 at 2:53 pm #112848QueniartParticipant
Re encore Merci Thalamus pour la traduction
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereFebruary 5, 2019 at 12:55 pm #112984TerryRedModerator
Yes…I always thought that having both an installer and a zip option for most anything is always the best option…. at least for software that is constantly updated.
We’re going through debating this for 1.4 of PinupSystem as well. Not sure about using an installer still, or only zip files, or having Popper and PuP separate,etc… For us it can be a nightmare for support because it uses so many other components that (like freezy mentions) needs to be “correctly” setup.
This biggest problem for us NOT using an installer is the files can be blocked by Windows, and people refuse to use 7zip, etc to be sure they aren’t blocked when installing or setting up PuP/Popper. An installer takes care of that problem no matter what. However with updated zips…people can still screw things up. Even with the installer they still screw up not knowing where their VPinMAME folder is, or their B2S plug-ins folder.
This is why I refuse to do Teamviewer and remote assistance. If someone can’t get it setup on their own at some point, then they will ALWAYS be asking for someone else to fix their problems. This hobby isn’t “hard”, but it won’t hold your hand.
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereFebruary 5, 2019 at 1:59 pm #112994
Well, creating an installer wasn’t trivial because I’m using the WiX toolset which has a relatively high learning curve (but is super powerful). But dmdext is downloaded around 1.5k times, so if it saves everybody two minutes for every release, it’s well worth the effort.
Anyway, if anyone at all is interested in testing this, let me know.
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereFebruary 5, 2019 at 2:06 pm #112998February 5, 2019 at 2:35 pm #113000CarnyPriestParticipant
I wind up downloading both. If the installer does not overwrite the ini file, that’s fine but I still want to know if there are any new sections or keys.
- Update the old installed ini with any new sections or keys in the zipped ini.
- Run the installer.
Installer works, but I still have yet to do any testing.
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereFebruary 5, 2019 at 2:42 pm #113001
@carnypriest Thanks for giving it a try! In any case there are release notes on the page where you download the installer where such things are noted. It’s a difficult topic because if I wanted to automate this, I would probably end up with a difftool, and I’m not sure many will be familiar with it.
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereFebruary 5, 2019 at 3:07 pm #113004CarnyPriestParticipant
Yes. I read the instructions. That’s why I’m installing this way. Otherwise, I might naively overwrite the ini, and I’d have to configure it over again. Or I might miss out on added features. I am using a diff tool but making my edits “manually”. I don’t know what the answer is except that this is not a consumer product. It’s a hobby that rewards experience. Still, I appreciate that the installer saves some effort. Same reason why I appreciate MJR’s DOF installer. I can follow instructions and extract files to the right folder, but it is still a nice convenience not having to worry about it.
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereFebruary 5, 2019 at 4:49 pm #113017
I went under Artifacts down loaded the 32-bit
I run the installer But it Did not install or update any files in VPM
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereFebruary 5, 2019 at 4:51 pm #113018
@outhere Was VPM selected when you installed? What does it say under product version when you right-click on DmdDevice.dll in the details tab?
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereFebruary 5, 2019 at 5:18 pm #113025
Product version 1.7.1
When I started the installer It asked me to agree with the license I click agree hit install, it installs But doesn’t ask about select VPM
There is nowhere to select VPM
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereMay 26, 2019 at 8:33 am #129498
Im having trubel to get the dmdext to work properly
When I choose FX3 from the popper wheel I get into the FX3 menu and here I can see the backbox image and DMD…
but when I choose ALIENS then when the game starts I loose backbox and DMD to windows desktop instead. Playfield running game as intended.
When testing with the CMD window I get the error on the picture attached. (like below)
C:\Pinball\Visual Pinball\VPinMAME>dmdext mirror –source=pinballfx3 –no-virtual
 2019/05/26 15:19:17.738 ERROR | Error: The parameter is incorrect.
 2019/05/26 15:19:17.903 ERROR | No output devices available.
I have the pinup start script i “FX3 script tab” according to TerryReds instructions (DMDext and FX3.EXE not as admin)
rem remove rem to setup your DMDEXT press “open examples for more info”
cd “C:\pinball\Visual Pinball\VPinMAME”
start /min “” “dmdext.exe” mirror –source=pinballfx3 –fx3-leagacy -q -d auto –virtual-hide-grip –virtual-position=7680 550 1280 –pinup PINUP\[GAMENAME]
START “” “[STARTDIR]Launch\VPXSTARTER.exe” 5 5 60 “Pinball FX3”
START “” “[DIREMU]\steam.exe” -applaunch 442120 -table_[GAMENAME]
Ps. VPX works grate
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You must be logged in to access attached files.May 26, 2019 at 10:35 am #129508
Did you try without using –fx3-leagacy
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You need to login in order to like this post: click hereMay 26, 2019 at 10:50 am #129515NailBusterModerator
important when asking for dmd help is to explain what hardware or lcd-dmd?
see examples of dmdext on my fx3 page config.
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereMay 26, 2019 at 11:41 am #129519
Ahh off course!
I have a LCD DMD 1280×390
And @Outhere will try without leagacy later tonight!
You need to login in order to like this post: click hereMay 27, 2019 at 11:45 am #129649
Tested with out the leagacy… Did not really see any difference?
I get this error window and FX3 hangs until I press yes or no… starts directly after I press yes or no…
need to bring it to front by “Window button tab” to reach it
I have half the virtual DMD in the DMD screens top left corner. but stretching out over the whole length…
It lays on top of POPPER DMD at start of popper front end… disappears after a few seconds in to the started frontend
Choosing FX3 and the the DMD and backbox is visable while browsing through the games list…
but both DMD and Backbox dies when FX3 game starts…
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