Do X/Y/Z Scale in POV still affect physics?

[freelunch]

I’m not sure why I haven’t asked this before, but I was confused about a year back when I learned: (1) Changing X/Y/Z Scale in POV affects physics. (2) Tables are often published with different default X/Y/Z Scale in POV among desktop, FS, and FSS.

Is (2) the case because: (A) People expect the physics difference problem to not exist in the future. (B) X/Y/Z Scales are supposed to be different by a specific number difference among desktop, FS, and FSS POV to simulate the same physics. (C) This problem is already fixed. (D) This was never a problem because all my memories are a lies.

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[HauntFreaks]

I’ve tested and looked into the POV of tables for countless hours since VP9…..  I’ve never seen it change the physics on any of the tables (100’s)….
BUT you can fuck a table up if you touch the Z scale, it should always = “1”  (never change it, also there is NEVER a situation where you would need to change it)
other then that you can make the table look as authentic or as wonky as you want…..

there are many threads where I explain what all the values do….

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[freelunch]

Good, I’m glad I’m failing to remember the details here, because the problem I made up sounds more annoying than reality.

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[vogliadicane]

I definitely experienced physics changes. Well, if you can call it physics change; in detail I remember one table, where one kicker hole kicked the ball to a slightly different direction after touching y-scale. No major physics changes, though.

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[freelunch]

vogliadicane wrote:

I definitely experienced physics changes. Well, if you can call it physics change; in detail I remember one table, where one kicker hole kicked the ball to a slightly different direction after touching y-scale. No major physics changes, though.

Hmm, I have a vague memory of this happening, too, but I don’t trust my memories at this point. I’m inclined to trust a veteran like HF, but I’ll do some of my own testing to see if I can recreate the problem that I thought used to happen. I’ll post my findings when I get around to it.

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[The Loafer]

If no one should touch the z setting, why isn’t this locked out?  I’ve ready many a thread over the years where a user changed this setting which lead to a stuck ball so I don’t really get why this is an editable field

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[freelunch]

The Loafer wrote:

If no one should touch the z setting, why isn’t this locked out? I’ve ready many a thread over the years where a user changed this setting which lead to a stuck ball so I don’t really get why this is an editable field

I’m not sure, but I can make an educated guess. I recently asked about the UI over on vpforums in the 10.5 beta thread and how it doesn’t scale properly with different Windows DPI scaling, and fuzzel said the UI is a mess, and he’s made changes he could, but he can’t make some changes he’d like to without redoing all the UI and thus rewrite half the application.
https://www.vpforums.org/index.php?showtopic=39428&p=411527

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[BorgDog]

I suppose if someone wanted to build a table with a wonky z scale to get the look they wanted, and made everything work at that scale then you could have something other than 1, but just don’t ever change it unless you are the guy or gal building the table.

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[The Loafer]

I’ll have to follow up with the fuzz man, gotta be a reason

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