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  • #87458
     roccodimarco 
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    Re creation of Bally's Eight Ball

    I have been slowly learning how to edit in VP, so when I saw that 32assassin has uploaded a PPPA table, I wondered why Eight Ball was never made.  For those who aren't aware, PPPA was a tournament that never happened, but two machines were re skinned, KISS and Eight Ball.  Nothing was changed, just the artwork.

    With that in mind, I wondered if I could simply just "undo" their work in a sense, and just re skin the PPPA machine.  I was surprised to see some of the Eight Ball images already in the image directory, so my work was really cut in half, and I used the plastics and playfield image  from moogster66 vp9 table.

    I contacted 32, and he told me he originally made Eight Ball first, but couldn't get all the permissions needed to release the table, so he went with PPPA.  I went ahead, finished my table then with the help of Haunt Freaks, the lighting and shadows were fixed up, and the permissions needed were tied.

    I really can't take much credit at all for this table.  It's 32's work, all I did was put a new coat of paint on it.  I know JP just released this table as well, so now we have two.  Thanks to;

    32assassin- made the PPPA table

    Popotte- the future pinball eight ball creator his apron pop bumper cap and plunger image were used

    moogster66: vp9 table for the playfield and plastics

    HauntFreaks: Lighting and shadows and detailing.

     

    roccodimarco: re skinned

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    #87460
     bord 
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    Looks very nice. Always great to have the option of different versions. Thanks for your work!

    #87461
     HauntFreaks 
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    Just so no one is confused, both roccodimarco’s table and JP’s were being built at the same time….

    #87464
     Thalamus 
    Moderator
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    I so agree with Bord here. I have a few tables where I can’t really decide what version I prefer over the other. So, they both stays. Thank you guys, downloading now.

    #87470
     32assassin 
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    if Poppotte gave permission to use his resources you are better off using those,  they are much better

     

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/j89u7gnbmukp6m9/eight%20ball%20resources.zip?dl=0

     

    and this

    SolCallback(2) = “vpmSolSound SoundFX(“”Bell10″”,DOFKnocker),”
    SolCallback(3) = “vpmSolSound SoundFX(“”Bell100″”,DOFKnocker),”
    SolCallback(4) = “vpmSolSound SoundFX(“”Bell1000″”,DOFKnocker),”
    SolCallback(5) = “vpmSolSound SoundFX(“”Bell10000″”,DOFKnocker),”

     

    needs to be updated to this

    SolCallback(2) = “vpmSolSound SoundFX(“”Bell10″”,DOFChimes),”
    SolCallback(3) = “vpmSolSound SoundFX(“”Bell100″”,DOFChimes),”
    SolCallback(4) = “vpmSolSound SoundFX(“”Bell1000″”,DOFChimes),”
    SolCallback(5) = “vpmSolSound SoundFX(“”Bell10000″”,DOFChimes),”

     

     

    see a table you like help me find the resources so that I can finish it
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7qtake9whi5ium2/AAB4K4W78oMVlqSxTzKtGHTHa?dl=0

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    #87472
     Jopp 
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    Thank you! looking great!

    My favorite pinball machine?
    Where I can put my name on as G.C....

    #87491
     N3roflint 
    Participant

    Thanks for this table. Always nice to have a choice.

    "In the U.S., you have to be a deviant or die of boredom." William S. Burroughs

    #87493
     Thalamus 
    Moderator
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    Please make the flippers the same angle and height on the y-axis. If you didn’t intentional put them like this.

    #87499
     Ben Logan2 
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    Very nice. Cool story behind this one.

    #87525
     fakingdeath 
    Participant

    Love the table. Thank you. The left flipper is kinda tucked under the plastic though. See attachment of actual table. Just a detail that caught my eye. Thank you!

    @thalamus on this table pic does it look like they are not correctly angled either on angle and/or y-axis or my poor vision playing tricks on me?

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     HauntFreaks 
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    Love the table. Thank you. The left flipper is kinda tucked under the plastic though. See attachment of actual table. Just a detail that caught my eye. Thank you!

    @thalamus on this table pic does it look like they are not correctly angled either on angle and/or y-axis or my poor vision playing tricks on me?

    I’m going to have to agree with this… here is a squared up real PF image… you can see it is for sure a few degrees differance

    av_post2  av_post2a

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    #87548
     randr 
    Keymaster
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    Well I’ll be :wacko:

    Currently playing around with FP to VP conversions. Nothing serious just trying to have fun.

    #87559
     Thalamus 
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    Agree or not. Fortunately. This is VP. I’ll fix it on my end. B-)

    #87563
     HauntFreaks 
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    Agree or not. Fortunately. This is VP. I’ll fix it on my end. B-)

    lol…. I think “fix” wouldnt be the correct word here…. its more of a “mod…. then a fix….   :whistle:

    #87566
     Drybonz 
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    The graphics on the PF are asymmetrical.  I think it just looks like they are uneven… really the graphics are uneven.

    #87570
     The Loafer 
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    I just played the real thing at Pincon 2018, the flippers were slightly not even. You could tell by the flipper markers (the little holes used to align the flippers, they are not symmetrically placed)

     

    edit: added a pic from the german schematics that shows this off-alignment.  It’s perfectly ok if people want to correct this on their own copy but remember the purpose of the mis-alignment wasn’t to mess with the OCD out there but rather that left flipper, along with the lack of a left flipper lane is supposed to make it harder for you to hit the 8 ball loop.  This was done by design and is not an error.

    In saying that, the misalignment is subtle, it should be done in a way that makes you go “that alignment is weird” as opposed to “hey, that’s really off!”

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    #87573
     The Loafer 
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    meh had time to kill so may as well spam Jason’s board LOL. 3 of these pics are from “for sale” threads on pinside.

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    #87588
     fakingdeath 
    Participant

    Either way this is the version that made it to my cab. Thank you again!

    #87598
     Thalamus 
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    Have to agree. With the pictures provided by @theloafer it looks like this is closer to the real deal than I first expected. :yes:

    #87609
     Drybonz 
    Participant
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    In “eb-playfield” pic, they are blueprinted to be even.  In “eb-alignment” 1 and 2 the tips of the flippers are in different positions… notice where they land in relation to the “S” in Bonus.  In “eb-alignment 2” the flipper dips lower into the S.

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