Funhouse (Williams 1990)

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  • #117636
    outhere
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      What Version of 10.6 are you using

      #117642
      dazzadasha
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        @dazzadasha
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        Thanks for answering.Really appreciate it. Im running 10.6.0 rev 3653 32 bit. Hmm, just had a thought, is there a 64 bit version?

        #117716
        LynnInDenver
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          @lynnindenver
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          Thanks for answering.Really appreciate it. Im running 10.6.0 rev 3653 32 bit. Hmm, just had a thought, is there a 64 bit version?

          Not yet. I suspect some combination of “it still works” and “it’s so much work” that’s kept it 32 bit this long. I’m waiting for Microsoft to announce they’re pulling the 32 bit rug out, and then there’ll be the debate about whether or not to actually fix it since “most people should be running Windows 7 on their pincabs”… :wacko:   ;-)

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          #117717
          outhere
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            @outhere
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            Thanks for answering.Really appreciate it. Im running 10.6.0 rev 3653 32 bit. Hmm, just had a thought, is there a 64 bit version?

            Try this version 10.6.0 rev 3592 because 3653 is still got some odd quirks going on that they have to figure out

            https://vpinball.com/VPBdownloads/vp-10-6-beta/

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            #117724
            g5k
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              @g5k

              Thanks, awesome effort. Magnificent. Plays awesome as is, but when I change dimensions(I do with all tables for desktop on TV/monitor) I get Fatal Error shader compilation failed! Unknown (0xfffffff) -some directory references- then renderdevice.ccp:802

              to be specific I changed incl and fov, as I do with every other table. Never had an issue before but this one crashes.

              Happens with this and Adams Family. Running 10.6

              I find you have to save a change close vpx and then reopen and test/play. It makes authoring painful but otherwise get this error frequently losing the changes. I’ve also read some versions of the beta are more likely to crash if you are using a .pov file. I’d just bake the change in if that is not working for you.

              Incremental save while you are trialling settings.

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              #117744
              wrd1972
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                @wrd1972
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                I am gonna guess that these occasional errors are due to the insane number of objects, lights, flashers etc., that are in the table. That seems to make the table extremely resource hungry. and prone to some weirdness from time to time. I can also clearly see that the table runs best on initial startup, but the longer you play without exiting the table. The more dicey it can get. So I would recommend playing it through a front-end like PinballX or other.

                 

                And G5K is right. Making the table with the countless errors and crashes, was a terrific PITA. I cant tell you how many times I had to back-pedal and rebuild things when these errors popped up. I was very good at saving progress as I went, but still got bit several times. So ultimately, I am not sure if its VP, CPU, GPU or memory that has the hard time with the table. But would really love to find out so the issues can be looked at. Because tables going forward, are going to become much more demanding, like this one.

                My VP Pincab /MAME Arcade Specs: MSI Micro-ATX Z390m MOBO, Core I5-9600K CPU @ 3.70GHz, 16GB NVRAM, Nvidia 1660 Super,

                40" PF Sony gaming LED TV, Dual 23" monitors in the backbox , Pinscape w. expansion board, Full DOF - Full MAME arcade support

                #117791
                Manolo / ICE
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                  @kamerik
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                  Thanks ! This table looks really nice. Long time ago that i played this one in  a game hall.

                   

                  :yahoo:

                  #117845
                  dazzadasha
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                    @dazzadasha
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                    thanks. Worked a treat. What a table. I used to look at FP tables and wished VP tables looked as good, but still had VP physics. Well I gotta say this is better than any recreation I’ve ever seen.

                    #117995
                    markrock76
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                      @markrock76
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                      Great update to an already fantastic table!  The physics are excellent and all the visual touches are icing on the cake.  The ball flying around is great fun but it is still posing some issues.  I had a ball stuck in the pic below.  After a hit off the ramp targets it flew over to that spot and got stuck.  Also had the ball land between the ramps and slow the table to a crawl but luckily I was able to nudge that one free and continue playing.  Thank you again Wrd and everyone that helped along the way.

                      2019-03-15_123649

                      #118015
                      Draifet
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                        @draifet
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                        Que question is… can the real table had the ball stuck at that same point?

                        #118080
                        Marrok
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                          @coyohtay

                          Hey everyone,

                          Thanks for the update to this table it looks really good.  Is there a way to disable the airball feature?

                          #118104
                          Thalamus
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                            @thalamus
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                            I don’t understand why you would want to do that. But, of course, this is VP so it can be done. The easiest way would be to give the ball more mass. But, be aware. That will effect everything. If you really don’t like it. Stick with 1.3 as it is awesome too.

                            #118260
                            wrd1972
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                              @wrd1972
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                              Yes the airballs can be disabled in the script. But there are no plans to add a disabling this feature. If anything, the feature will continue to evolve as issues are encountered. And I agree with Thal. Why would one want to disable them in the first place? It adds to the overall PInball experience. But each to his own. :scratch:   Balls a flying is Pinball. And as I have mentioned before, that my real FH is notorious for flying balls.

                              Okay so I have a new rev coming out with several fixes, to resolve stuck balls when they get launched.  I have added some invisible shields plus the Physical Ramps (wire ramps) have been completely redone. Now there is no way of getting a ball stick, between the “wire” ramps.

                              Also Schreibi34 has redone many of the visual metal objects to make them much more shiny, similar to a chrome like appearance. The metal walls look fantastic. I also added in a few missing visual details too. But nothing really different in terms of physics and such.

                              If anyone has encountered other ball sticks or other visual issues. Please let me know now.

                              My VP Pincab /MAME Arcade Specs: MSI Micro-ATX Z390m MOBO, Core I5-9600K CPU @ 3.70GHz, 16GB NVRAM, Nvidia 1660 Super,

                              40" PF Sony gaming LED TV, Dual 23" monitors in the backbox , Pinscape w. expansion board, Full DOF - Full MAME arcade support

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                              #118339
                              robertms
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                                @mophead
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                                Love the flying balls, VP has never felt more authentic. Personally I didn’t think this level of realism was ever going to be possible in virtual pinball. Wrd1972 has has been scrutinizing every aspect of VP, from real-feel physics, to improving kickers, to making airballs possible. Kudos to wrd1972 for never giving up on improving the virtual experience, we’re lucky to have him!

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                                #118357
                                Marrok
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                                  @coyohtay

                                  I love the way this version looks, the lighting and everything and I appreciate the effort to recreate some of the real behavior of a real pin.  My only disappointment with it except the ball seem to completely randomly appear elsewhere.  Maybe I am confusing the air balls with table stutter.  Not had this problem with anything else.

                                  My system is Windows 10 64 bit, Core i7 4.1 Ghz, 16gb memery, 4k monitor, eVGA 11gb 1080 ti graphics card.

                                  #118425
                                  wrd1972
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                                    @wrd1972
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                                    Thanks for the compliments guys.

                                    But please give some props to BorgDog. I kind of started with his air balls scripting, and schmoozed it to my liking.

                                    My VP Pincab /MAME Arcade Specs: MSI Micro-ATX Z390m MOBO, Core I5-9600K CPU @ 3.70GHz, 16GB NVRAM, Nvidia 1660 Super,

                                    40" PF Sony gaming LED TV, Dual 23" monitors in the backbox , Pinscape w. expansion board, Full DOF - Full MAME arcade support

                                    #118433
                                    The Loafer
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                                      @theloafer
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                                      Thanks BorgDog and wrd1972!

                                       

                                      Finally got a chance to play a few games yesterday of this thing.  Yep, it’s pretty awesome, the airballs all happen in a realistic way but what I love the most about this game is the fact I miss a lot of shots for the right reasons.  IE: feels like I just missed and I need to do better.  I had one really good game out of 4, lost a few shots SDTM because of missed shots.  It’s really deserving of the accolades so thanks all who contributed to it!

                                      #118568
                                      g5k
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                                        @g5k

                                        Thanks for the work that has gone into this and sharing. Just one note, I hit the orbit and the ball coming down at speed skipped over the top of the left lane guide/plastic and drained. Maybe the plastics need to be set to be collidable too? I didn’t check to see. Great work.

                                        #118918
                                        wrd1972
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                                          @wrd1972
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                                          Okay. I will check that tonight. Thanks

                                          My VP Pincab /MAME Arcade Specs: MSI Micro-ATX Z390m MOBO, Core I5-9600K CPU @ 3.70GHz, 16GB NVRAM, Nvidia 1660 Super,

                                          40" PF Sony gaming LED TV, Dual 23" monitors in the backbox , Pinscape w. expansion board, Full DOF - Full MAME arcade support

                                          #120240
                                          wrd1972
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                                            @wrd1972
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                                            G5K,

                                            I am wrapping up my rev now. Are you referring to “pPlastic24”?

                                            Some more FH eye candy on the way folks.

                                            My VP Pincab /MAME Arcade Specs: MSI Micro-ATX Z390m MOBO, Core I5-9600K CPU @ 3.70GHz, 16GB NVRAM, Nvidia 1660 Super,

                                            40" PF Sony gaming LED TV, Dual 23" monitors in the backbox , Pinscape w. expansion board, Full DOF - Full MAME arcade support

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