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@pinfan45 and @jamal1234
Criticism is welcome here when done appropriately. Frankly, I see posts by both of you as trolls. And Jamal, I find your post offensive. Most of us here are volunteers. Whether you like the work or not, you can still show some appreciation for the work and a minimal amount of etiquette.
VP wouldn’t be where it is today without folks here constantly challenging the standards. To complain about a volunteers work and then refuse to assist in making things better is trolling. And why would anyone take on such a time consuming project with the grace you’ve shown? I wouldn’t touch it with a 10 foot pole. Also, why would someone with a real GNR be so passionate about a VP version? Just walk over and play the real one!
Current Project: Perpetual updates of VPX physics.
Current Project: Perpetual updates of VPX physics.
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I have no issue with your opinion. I have issue with the way you express it and the language you use.
Edit: IMHO, the language you use has no place here.
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@randr You’re being much more forgiving than I would be, I’d have banned him outright immediately for that one word. There is absolutely no call for typing that word in anywhere.
Creator of the first PinupPlayer PostDMD mods for VPX - PostDMD for Masters of the Universe VPX and Jaws VPX.
Head Proprietor of Pisces Pinball, a VPX table developer.
Lead Technician of MC Chase Amusements, a private arcade in our home basement.Creator of the first PinupPlayer PostDMD mods for VPX - PostDMD for Masters of the Universe VPX and Jaws VPX.
Head Proprietor of Pisces Pinball, a VPX table developer.
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Thank you sheltemke for this. I and many others are very appreciative of the work that has gone into this.
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Man, did this this thread topic get hijacked…or did it? I’m sensing orchestrated goofiness.
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Calling me a TROLL I find that offensive. And the reason I want a perfect VP GnR table is to preserve mine in perfect condition. I grew up in the 70’s when that N word was rampant. Didnt hurt anyone in my era. It’s all about political correctness now. People get hurt feelings over a word. Jamal is black and that’s his lingo hes entitled to his freedom of speech . Theres a difference how he used the word. He was describing himself. I dont get why people keep putting put a mod of a mod of the same table. To be honest I didnt notice any difference with this release. If your going to put out a table. Take your time show something outstanding with it
This is what GnR needs work with. As stated from good friend Jamal.
2 spotlights missing in the upper play-field area
– More depth/higher sidewalls to the G and R ramps
– Slight bend to the G ramp in the southern corner
– 2 railings missing near the top flipper
– All images enhanced to 4k
– Reflective sidewalls
– Back-wall flashers corrected
– Play-field object reflections
– Top flipper made more distinct from the wall beneath
Under the circumstances on the internet, unfortunately, without the context of who is behind the username (and given my internet experiences, my general assumption with such things is that the context can’t actually matter when it comes to the reactions!), a forum admin has to assume the worst when the word comes up. My husband sure hasn’t used that word anywhere where I can hear it (he’s half-Jamaican, and would have the right to use the word himself).
Regarding the image enhancement to 4K… please consider looking up what the current scanners are for playfield scanning, as they’re already using the best resources they have at hand. Don’t expect help at this point; from what I can tell, you’ve been demanding enough about the “problems with the table” and “I need you to tell me HOW to do these things so you can earn the resources to make it to my demands” that no one’s going to want to give you the
handholdingtech support to make it happen. Everything else, you need to take some photos and post them to provide some reference material for what the errors are. I work in printing, and the worst thing is when I get a text instruction, especially with insufficient points of reference to find where the change is, where a marked up copy is about 20 times more informative, and that’s literally for text editing, not the appearance. Let me point this out in detail:– 2 spotlights missing in the upper play-field area
Where are the spotlights specifically located in the upper playfield area? Don’t describe; take a photo of each spotlight, with enough of the surrounding area that one can tell where it goes, and where it points. If possible, provide a photo of the area with the machine off, and a photo of the area with the machine (and spotlight) on, so that they can see what it illuminates.
– More depth/higher sidewalls to the G and R ramps
How much higher? How much deeper? All we have is a general “it’s not deep/high enough”. Is there a difference in angle compared to the current build? Again, a photo will speak volumes.
– Slight bend to the G ramp in the southern corner
How slight? One man’s slight bend is another man’s sharp, deep curve. Which direction does it bend? Again, a photo can convey volumes more information than you’ve actually provided.
– 2 railings missing near the top flipper
Photos are absolutely required for what these railings look like. On my best day making that sort of change, you’d get a start with literally a straight metal rail that’s nowhere close to what’s really there, and at least three iterations. And by this point at my work, you’ve annoyed me AND the sales person you’re relaying it through.
– All images enhanced to 4k
Then they’re going to need brand new images. See again, get a scanner capable of being placed on the playfield (yes, you will have to tear it down, no there is no way around that short of finding a NOS playfield and plastics set somewhere.), or hire a photographer that specializes in taking these sorts of photos. No, just knowing Photoshop doesn’t unlock any sort of “just scale it up” magic, that magic doesn’t exist. The only thing better is just brand new, better images.
– Reflective sidewalls
You don’t really know how many extra hours of effort you just demanded for this. Look at the threads for that last build of Tales of the Arabian Nights about it, and then ask one of the people involved how many hours they spent in Blender. I’m betting it’s well over 40 hours, without factoring in the lamp toy. And it limits the ability to adjust the POV to the cabinet.
– Back-wall flashers corrected
Again, photos, photos, photos. Otherwise, you’re just saying, “the back wall is wrong, I’ll know it when it’s right“. The current authors have better things to do than to move things around until you finally proclaim, “not perfect, but close enough that only I’ll notice now”. Even one reference photo from your machine will work absolute wonders. If it’s a sequence issue in terms of wrong light assigned to each flasher, a video with notes of the mode engaged can work additional wonders.
– Play-field object reflections
See the aforementioned on the reflective sidewalls.
– Top flipper made more distinct from the wall beneath
And, yet again, how does it need to be made more distinct. Can you show that with a photo of the flipper from your perspective? Does it need to be brighter, a little more red, just slightly taller?
I will reiterate the ongoing theme here. Photos. Photos. Photos. PHOTOS. You can literally type a lot of words trying to describe what’s wrong, and waste everyone’s time trying to get what you mean, while even a single photo will provide immediate results. There is even a button, uppermost row of the icons in the edit box area, rightmost icon, called “insert image”, and it will walk you through posting the image. If you need these things fixed, you need to play ball with providing visual references and resources, or you will annoy (and already have!) everyone else until you’re pretty much assuring that, if you finally step up later and mod it yourself anyway, no one will want to actually download your vision because they get that bad taste in their mouth from the way you’ve handled what you’ve identified as issues with the table.
Creator of the first PinupPlayer PostDMD mods for VPX - PostDMD for Masters of the Universe VPX and Jaws VPX.
Head Proprietor of Pisces Pinball, a VPX table developer.
Lead Technician of MC Chase Amusements, a private arcade in our home basement.Creator of the first PinupPlayer PostDMD mods for VPX - PostDMD for Masters of the Universe VPX and Jaws VPX.
Head Proprietor of Pisces Pinball, a VPX table developer.
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@pinfan45, my opinion of you has not changed since the last time you ranted about how bad this table was. Understand this, you can take all the pictures you can or scan as many plastics as you want, Totan and flintstones were not built on scans or pics, it’s rendered in Blender. Any no, no one is gonna hold your hand to teach you Blender, especially since you can’t google how to take a fucking picture. To say you won’t help him out with resources to improve this table because you want better is a dick fucking move. I bet I speak for most people when I say, you are welcomed to spread your bullshit over at one of the other websites. You don’t need to be here. If you don’t like this table , don’t download it, don’t talk shit about it, don’t click on the link, just type vpforums into google and enjoy the tables over there
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@jamal1234 did you really have the nerve to say “The more time you waste posting the less time you have to build us tables. “. Is that what you think of us? We are here to build you fucking tables? I hope I took this out of context because if not you. Need to be gone also.
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Well you should care what other people on this site think of you. If you act like this you will have one less place to get tables from, smartass.
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Strange to see any chance of a major renovation to this game sunk by it’s two most vocal proponents, one of them openly boasting about what a pariah he is. Not sure I’ve ever seen anything quite like it.
Is this a GnR fan thing?
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I think Axle Rose would kick both of their asses. He is known for stopping his concerts for people in the crowd acting like asses.
side note, @thalamus, @randr, can I put a block on a person not to be able to download my stuff?
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I think Axle Rose would kick both of their asses. He is known for stopping his concerts for people in the crowd acting like asses.
side note, @thalamus, @randr, can I put a block on a person not to be able to download my stuff?
I prefer this way too, and prefer stop talking about this from now, we here to enjoy pinball and becouse what we do, so time to turn the page in the book i think.
Take it easy :)
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Keep’n it one hunnit I’m just a 20 old XXXX from motor city
Also from the ‘Motor City’ yet somehow at a loss on the disrespect (and also your words? Google can’t even translate that.) I boast about this hobby’s camaraderie and it’s respect to those of us who have families and quality of life to enjoy the same passion. The incessant ranting and posts of negativity has zero place not only on this site, but this hobby. You could very well be a prime example of what is becoming lost with new generations.
"Fuck this game. I love it."
"Fuck this game. I love it."
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Very nice! Thanks!!!
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@jamal1234 Pretty non-classy, insulting @brandonlaw like that right after asking a happily married transwoman for her private photo so that you could express an opinion as to whether she’s hot or not. (Hint: my husband thinks I’m smokin’ hot, and I’m not inclined to argue with him, plus your opinion on my appearance wasn’t solicited.)
Creator of the first PinupPlayer PostDMD mods for VPX - PostDMD for Masters of the Universe VPX and Jaws VPX.
Head Proprietor of Pisces Pinball, a VPX table developer.
Lead Technician of MC Chase Amusements, a private arcade in our home basement.Creator of the first PinupPlayer PostDMD mods for VPX - PostDMD for Masters of the Universe VPX and Jaws VPX.
Head Proprietor of Pisces Pinball, a VPX table developer.
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I blocked the user.
Anyone else care to say ANYTHING racist here? Speak up and i can ban you too.
Will leave his post up so people can see what a prick he was unless @lynnindenver you want it taken down?
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Messing with the VPinball app and push notifications.
So if you haven't downloaded app yet what are you waiting for!?
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Always sad to see when someone is struggling with interaction. Not much you can do or say except hope that something unique happens in their life and brings them peace and better understanding. Definitely did right thing randr.
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I had seen his rebuttal earlier and chose the high road just as I’d want my children to do. Might be a tough argument with someone who talks with peanut butter in their mouth not to mention on their brain. Glad he got the boot, @randr. Thanks, Sir.
Now we can carry on.
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