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  • #42163
    TerryRed
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    FP

     

    The Future Pinball, BAM, DOF, PuP, VR and front-end Mega-Guide! Now with PinEvent…

     

    …has now MOVED!

     

    My Guide was getting to a point where it was a completely new reference, and the web link “name” no longer was accurate to what the guide has become.

     

    So it has a new name and a new location… you can now find it here:

     

    https://vpinball.com/forums/topic/future-pinball-and-bam-mega-guide-by-terryred/

     

    Please goto the new Guide’s location for all your Future Pinball, BAM, PinEvent, DOF, PUP, DOFLinx, Front-end and VR info and answers to the most common questions asked!

     

    This post will no longer be updated..and eventually removed. Please bookmark the new Guide address!

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    #42188
    randr
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    @randr
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    Hey terry thjs is a good guide I recall a member was having some issues installing fp. Hope he sees this :good:

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    #42205
    TerryRed
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    @terryred
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    Thanks.

    Others may not know how BAM works with XML files, they may not have Future Pinball graphics setup correctly for SLAM’S tables (disable GameRoom) and also what’s needed for FutureDMD, etc…

    Also, some people setup BAM by having the FPLoader.exe renamed to Future Pinball.exe. (this was recommended at some point long ago, but is not necessary for BAM)

    This can cause issues for programs like DOFLinx that need to “detect” Future Pinball.exe properly.  DDH69 posted about someone having this issue, so I figured this is a good time to do a “simple”, right to the point guide.

    #42217
    Dr.Tom
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    @crile1
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    Thanks Terry for putting this guide together.  I might have been “that guy” having the fploader issue.  So, I was thinking of posting the solution,  but as always, not only did you beat me to it, but did far more than I would have done.  Thanks for doing this.   :good:

    #42239
    TerryRed
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    @terryred
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    I’ve seen others that have FPLoader.exe renamed….not just you.  :)     Or they have Future Pinball.exe in their BAM folder,etc…

    Some of them may have not tried DOFLinx yet, so I put that guide up in case they wanted to try it out….and hopefully this will help avoid any issues.

    #42258
    rotrax
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    @rotrax

    Thanx for the info! :yahoo:

    #42427
    Al
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    @alandee
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    Thanks Terry, following win7 deciding that I was no longer using a legit copy ( it was admittedly a long series of upgrade CDs from XP through Vista to Win7 and I couldn’t be bothered going through all that again .. ) I’ve splurged and upgraded to win 10, and now I have it freshly installed, I’m just about to embark on the FP install to see what it’s like, so your timing for me is impeccable !

    Cheers,

    al.

     

    #49464
    MnHotRod
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    @mnhotrod

    Unable to download FuturePinball from Christophers website. Looks like it is an exe file. Is anyone else having issues downloading? Is there another reliable source?

    UPDATE: Found it on VPU

    #57403
    blackvulcan3
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    @blackvulcan3
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    Hey Terry. No luck, have installed as per your instruction.

    I get two errors, regardless of which screen I select as backglass it always comes up as my DMD monitor (which is monitor 3 on Win 10). I am setup as 1,3,2. Is the a file like the screenres.txt file in VPX for FP that I need to adjust?? – EDIT – It would seem like my cab doesn’t like the selection of Full Screen, this leaves the windows task bar on the left of screen, but at least the backglass is on the right screen – any thoughts on this would be great? I assume its not a ddraw issue like VPX??

    I am using your cabinet file for MOTU and I get an error Pinball Meditation Error, Script Error Line 5328, Variable is undefined ‘FF_init’.

    I have no DOF in my cab and this portion of the script appears to be about DOF. I played around with editing those out but I was chasing my tail then with a list of errors. Is there an easy way for a non DOF cab (No DOF files installed, at all) to play this version?

    I have TFTC working but like above with the DMD and playfield issues.

    #57408
    TerryRed
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    @terryred
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    Hey Terry. No luck, have installed as per your instruction. I get two errors, regardless of which screen I select as backglass it always comes up as my DMD monitor (which is monitor 3 on Win 10). I am setup as 1,3,2. Is the a file like the screenres.txt file in VPX for FP that I need to adjust?? – EDIT – It would seem like my cab doesn’t like the selection of Full Screen, this leaves the windows task bar on the left of screen, but at least the backglass is on the right screen – any thoughts on this would be great? I assume its not a ddraw issue like VPX?? I am using your cabinet file for MOTU and I get an error Pinball Meditation Error, Script Error Line 5328, Variable is undefined ‘FF_init’. I have no DOF in my cab and this portion of the script appears to be about DOF. I played around with editing those out but I was chasing my tail then with a list of errors. Is there an easy way for a non DOF cab (No DOF files installed, at all) to play this version? I have TFTC working but like above with the DMD and playfield issues.

    As far as MOTU, if you don’t have any DOF in your cabinet, then you need this version….hence why the DOFLinx versions of tables say they are meant for cabinet users with feedback hardware (DOFLinx).

    http://www.vpforums.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=12916

     

    Your issues sound like windows issues and not FP.  It’s best to try to have your screens as 1,2,3    playfield, bg, dmd .  If you have ever remote desktop’ed into your cabinet, that can screw up you screen ID’s. (it did for me)  So even though screen 2 shows as 2, it may actually be enumerated as 3,etc…  Some people have this issue, and its a PITA somtimes to get rid of.

    FP may be picky if your BG is not 2, so that could be part of your problem.  There is no screenres.txt. FP and VP have nothing in common.

     

    You should be using FPLoader (in BAM directory) to load tables.  Once table is loaded, then you press “q” to bring up BAM menu and adjust your size, positions etc, of both your pf and bg.

    #57428
    blackvulcan3
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    @blackvulcan3
    Member

    Thanks Terry, I saw Cabinet version and was blinded by it. I’ll use the DT version and adjust.

    I do have my cab setup as 1 PF, 2 BG and 3 DMD and windows see’s that as 1, 3, 2. I’ll try and change it and adjust my VPX accordingly. I have a day off today so I’ll play around it with it.

    Thanks mate.

    EDIT – That solves it, changed the display to 1,2,3 instead of 1,3,2 but I can’t seem to get VPX and PinballX to play nicely with that change at present, more work for another day. All good though, the wife will be thrilled that she can play MOTU (as will I) and I can run it from the editor with a quick display change. Very much appreciated.

    #96440
    GeorgeH
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    @georgeh

    Terry,

    Why is it that you say to copy your FP tables (*.fpt) to the Tables folder (NOT in their own self-named sub folders!)?

    I am guessing it has something to do with compatibility with pincab programs.

    I set one table up in its own folder and it worked.  I did it this way because I found 2 tables that have the exact same name for a library file and they are totally different.

    George

     

     

     

    #96442
    TerryRed
    Moderator
    @terryred
    MemberContributorModerator

    Terry,

    Why is it that you say to copy your FP tables (*.fpt) to the Tables folder (NOT in their own self-named sub folders!)?

    I am guessing it has something to do with compatibility with pincab programs.

    I set one table up in its own folder and it worked. I did it this way because I found 2 tables that have the exact same name for a library file and they are totally different.

    George

    It’s because of the way front-end programs work. It can cause issues with the tables not working correctly with the needed path structure of the program. Same normally goes for VPX for different reasons. It “can” work, but you are asking for issues when setup with other programs.

    #107346
    TerryRed
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    @terryred
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    With the very recent updates to BAM and new tables coming out, I figured I should completely update this Guide with more details many may not know about…and also to include more details about BAM setup, Pinup Player, Real DMD and LCD DMD, and Pinup Popper.

    I’ve covered almost all the main essentials one needs for Future Pinball setup in a cabinet!

    If you know of something important I may have missed…let me know.

     

    With SLAMT1LT starting to release his new Ultimate PRO tables tomorrow, I wanted a more thorough guide to cover the important stuff.

    The first table is JAWS Ultimate Pro…and it is AWESOME. It looks sweet with BAM’s nicer lighting, it plays MUCH better with the new Dynamic flippers, sounds great including Ball Rolling, has a new Harpoon Gun (TWD LE style) and it’s almost a completely new game with new gameplay and many more modes.

     

    I’ll try to get a ready to go CFG you guys can use. Not just for BAM default…but also for Jaws Ultimate Pro. Then it will be ready to go for a perfect cabinet view and lighting setup!

    #107347
    outhere
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    @outhere
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    I’m have a 4K TV for the Play field and I run windows at 4K, I have no problem with VP or FX….

    When I run future pinball whether it’s set at 1080 or 4K it takes my desktop an throws it all over and the Play field covers all 3 screens

    Is there a way of setting it so it doesn’t do this?

    #107349
    TerryRed
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    @terryred
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    I’m have a 4K TV for the Play field and I run windows at 4K, I have no problem with VP or FX….

    When I run future pinball whether it’s set at 1080 or 4K it takes my desktop an throws it all over and the Play field covers all 3 screens

    Is there a way of setting it so it doesn’t do this?

    Make sure your DPI / Text Scaling is set to 100.

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    #107360
    outhere
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    @outhere
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    That was it as far as putting future pinball Play field on all screens it still terrorizes the desktop some

    The Pub packs worked fine BUT future pinball does not like DPI above 100%

    Thanks for your help Terry

     

    #107361
    TerryRed
    Moderator
    @terryred
    MemberContributorModerator

    That was it as far as putting future pinball Play field on all screens it still terrorizes the desktop some

    The Pub packs worked fine BUT future pinball does not like DPI above 100%

    Thanks for your help Terry

    Yah..it’s not just FP either… other programs don’t like it. So far a cabinet setup in particular you need Windows DPI / Text Scaling set to 100, and nothing higher.

    #107362
    outhere
    Moderator
    @outhere
    MemberContributorvipModerator

    That was it as far as putting future pinball Play field on all screens it still terrorizes the desktop some

    The Pub packs worked fine BUT future pinball does not like DPI above 100%

    Thanks for your help Terry

    Yah..it’s not just FP either… other programs don’t like it. So far a cabinet setup in particular you need Windows DPI / Text Scaling set to 100, and nothing higher.

    Unfortunately there is

    #107386
    TerryRed
    Moderator
    @terryred
    MemberContributorModerator

    UPDATE: Check main Guide for newer updated default cfg files that are better to use! (I removed this reply’s attachment)

    UPDATE: Use BAM to hide HUD Overlays and elements now. (Check main Guide updates)

     

    With Jaws Ultimate Pro now available on SLAM’s site, I’m posting a BAM CFG for you guys to use that will set it up just right for a cabinet view and the ideal lighting he meant for the table.

    Just extract and copy the “Jaws ULTIMATE Pro.cfg” file to your “BAM \ CFG” folder. It needs to be the same as the table’s filename to work…so if you change that then this must also be changed to match.

    This default.cfg file and Jaws cfg file are set for the normal “STATIC” view…not any of the Kinect, or other face Tracking views. So if you have that, then use my file but adjust the size for your setup afterward. Also the lighting may be a bit dark for OLDER tables. If so, then set the Lighting to default, and adjust as needed from there.

    The default.cfg goes into your BAM folder. Backup the current one just in case. This is setup similar to Jaws, and should get you a good default setup to use for most tables. Just open the BAM menu, goto the main menu, and choose “Reset to Default” to have a table use the settings on this file. Any table without a cfg will use the Default settings at first loading.

     

    Let me know how they work for you guys.

     

    HUD OVERLAY and HUD DMD

    For cabinet play of a new Future Pinball table, first you need to move the HUD DMD and Video Overlays (intended for desktop view, not cab view) so they wont appear on your playfield screen.

    Just load the table into the FP editor, click on Translite. Make sure all layers are visible. You can see the the HUD Overlays and DMD you want to move on the top left. Select them all, and right-click on a part of it, choose Unlock. Now you can move them off to the left outside the Pink Box (that is the visible area of the playfield, we don’t want it there anymore). This pic show where you want it to be. Then just save the file and you are good.

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