Latest VPX 10.6 Beta & Windows 10 64 bit :: Load Times Unbearable

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  • #143311
    jdsabin1
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      @jdsabin1

      Everyone – I am using the latest VPX 10.6 Beta (3751) and am running Windows 10 64 bit with the latest patches, etc. My problem is simple enough, I open Visual Pinball and when I go to open a table, it loads unbearably slow. It took a full 25 seconds for Capt. Card to load for example. I went so far as to whitelist folders for Windows defender but it made no difference. No other AV on the machine.

      Running an i7-8700k, 16 GB memory, GTX 1070 TI.

      Any suggestions most appreciated.  :cry:

       

      #143318
      Thalamus
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        @thalamus

        On a SSD or regular HD ? Changes was made during 10.6 that will increase the loading time. For PBY, that I use for recording in frontend, has on my cab a pause of 25 seconds and I do have a SSD. I used to have it set for 20, but, a few of the tables, TAF, pr. example made me change it to 25. I should get me a M.2.

        #143323
        jdsabin1
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          @jdsabin1

          On a SSD or regular HD ? Changes was made during 10.6 that will increase the loading time. For PBY, that I use for recording in frontend, has on my cab a pause of 25 seconds and I do have a SSD. I used to have it set for 20, but, a few of the tables, TAF, pr. example made me change it to 25. I should get me a M.2.

          It’s a 250GB SSD. I wonder if I can change PBY to something greater than 25 seconds? When I tried to capture video last night it didn’t work just because the table hadn’t loaded yet. I knew the load times were greater with 10.6 but I didn’t recall them taking *this* long. The only changes I made were using the very latest VPX beta and I did allow the Windows 10 updates to take place (which I now regret). I will mess around some more with the Windows security settings when I get home tonight to see if I can make it any better.

          #143324
          outhere
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            @outhere

            If your video settings are set real high it will take longer to load

            #143325
            bord
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              @bord

              Do you have a B2S for Capt. Card? Trying to load without a backglass available takes 5x as long on my PC.

              #143329
              jdsabin1
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                @jdsabin1

                I do – I am using Loserman’s b2s backglass. Once it all loads, things work just fine. I will test load times for some other tables tonight now that my curiosity is piqued. I know that load times have increased in 10.6, I just don’t recall seeing tables load this slow. More to come.

                Oh and thanks for your reply.  :good:

                 

                #143330
                Thalamus
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                  @thalamus

                  You have to remember one thing The more “non native objects” there is in a table, the more time VPX needs for its pre-rendering. Just look at the progress bar. What does the text tell you ?

                  I’m sure the Capt Card you are ref to is not Loserman’ but Bord version. ;-)

                  Of course, your video options does come to play here. Texture compression on or off ?

                  #143344
                  jdsabin1
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                    @jdsabin1

                    Texture compression is off. I did some more timings with a stopwatch starting when I clicked open and got the following:

                    TOTAN 4k – 20 seconds

                    Attack From Mars – 16 seconds

                    Eight Ball Deluxe – 10 seconds

                    STTG – 18 seconds

                    Capt Card – 30 seconds (!)

                    For those of you who know what timings are supposed to look like, are these in the realm of being normal then (outside of Capt. Card that is)?

                    I haven’t done any timings in regard to selecting ‘play table’ to see what those look like at this point.

                    Thanks in advance.

                    #143346
                    bord
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                      @bord

                      That makes sense to me. I didn’t do anything to optimize Capt. Card as it just started life as a personal mod and I have a pretty robust gpu. Big textures files probably have a lot to do with it.

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                      #143348
                      jdsabin1
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                        @jdsabin1

                        Good to know. I love those older tables and that one is a gem :). Thanks!

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