Currently, there are 0 users and 0 guests visiting this topic.
Viewing 20 posts - 1 through 20 (of 97 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #172732
    Dark
    Moderator
    @dark
    vipMemberContributor

    Greetings ladies and gentlemen,  as some of you already know I’ve been gathering resources to build A.G Soccer.

    The good news is the resources are pouring in,  I’ve got someone from pinside who’s doing a full restore on his table and is providing HD pics.  Currently I have loads of un-populated play field pics and I’m just waiting on the plastics now.  The bad news is his table has bad fading.

     

    So what I’d like to know is:

    Are there any experienced photoshoppers (or gimp or w/e) that would be willing to lend a hand?  I know cyberperez offered to help and possibly one other.  If I have to I’ll do it all myself but what I’m hoping to do is divide the work up a bit, especially on the graphics part of the project among a handful of people to see it done fast.  I will end up building this entire table in 3D and that will be a fair amount of work on its own and I’m shorter on free time than I was a few weeks ago and I’m hoping to get this table done in a timely manner.

    What needs to be done?

    So far the play field will need to be stitched and minor clean ups.   The table suffers from fading quite badly so there will be lots of color balancing and color fixing to do.  There will also be a bit of editing to do as some of the plastics text can vary based on version/region.  If I can just get 2-3 people total it will make the project progress much faster.

    So this will effectively be the sign up thread for this project.

    3dcreation

    #172749
    Dark
    Moderator
    @dark
    vipMemberContributor

    What I have available so far for the play field can be downloaded here:

    https://vpinball.com/forums/topic/a-g-soccer-stripped-play-field-resources/

     

    I also have some additional reference images sourced through google.

    3dcreation

    #172793
    Tom
    Participant
    @armyaviation
    MemberContributor

    I know there are people out there that can do this, hopefully we can get some volunteers

    #172798
    Gwen
    Participant
    @gwen
    Member

    I don’t know that I’m an expert but I do have a fair bit of experience with photoshop and adobe illustrator.  I would be happy to do what I can to assist.

    Gwen
    - Wonky builder of the steampunk Nikola Tesla cabinet & Starfighter Cabinet

    #172800
    Dark
    Moderator
    @dark
    vipMemberContributor

    Thanks Gwen, I’m going to try and come up with a color palette soon so we can start un-fading the artwork.

     

    In the meantime if someone wants to have a go at stitching the play field together that would be helpful, see link above.

    3dcreation

    #172822
    Gwen
    Participant
    @gwen
    Member

    Downloading the playfield now.  I’ll see what I can get done with it.

    Gwen
    - Wonky builder of the steampunk Nikola Tesla cabinet & Starfighter Cabinet

    1 user thanked author for this post.
    #172824
    freneticamnesic
    Moderator
    @freneticamnesic
    vipModeratorMember

    gotta get the team back together lol

    Punch it!

    #172832
    eMBee
    Participant
    @embee
    Member

    If you need help with photoshop work, I would like to help where i can.

    #172854
    bord
    Moderator
    @bord
    MembervipContributorModerator

    @dark, do you know what pf dimensions for this are?

    #172904
    Dark
    Moderator
    @dark
    vipMemberContributor

    @bord

    The pinside user gave me this info:

    “Inside cabinet 1350mm x 520mm
    Inside of apron (between flippers on flat part of apron) to inside of apron other end 943mm
    From middle of playfield is has a 4 degree fall towards the flippers.”

    I sent him a message to confirm that the ‘inside cabinet’ measurements includes the entire white wood or more.

    3dcreation

    #172916
    Onevox
    Participant
    @rooster
    Member

    Decent with photoshop and indesign/illustrator. Glad to help if I can.

    Onevox

     

    #172918
    Dark
    Moderator
    @dark
    vipMemberContributor

    Lots of great people coming forward to help now, for the time being I’d say just stay tuned to this thread and we’ll start to divvy the work out.  As I mention above color correction and fixing the faded colors, we will need to coordinate to make sure we all use the same pallet.  The resources are good for this project so I don’t think it will be too much work especially with people helping out.  I have a sneaking suspicion that it won’t be as simple as just adjusting color levels especially with the red’s so far gone, I think we will have to digitally repaint a lot of the colors.  Technically we could just slap it together with the faded colors and it will probably still look good but I want it to look like it’s fresh out of the factory.

    3dcreation

    #172923
    Dark
    Moderator
    @dark
    vipMemberContributor

    To give an idea of what the colors ‘should’ look like this is a reference image I have from another machine and we can see on this machine the center plastic’s red color has faded to orange instead of yellow like on our resource machine.  The RGB on the play field are much more vibrant than the pic posted above.

     

    1d2942d19bddca449afdad4834fb3b8504996656

     

    This pic shows a table with only slightly faded center plastic, they almost still red! :P

    This is probably the closest to factory fresh colors here but the pic isn’t the best.

    alving_soccerball2

    Marco specialties sells the plastic set, as per usual they provide a low res thumbnail that’s just low res enough to be useless.  :P

    We can assume these are the true colors I suppose.

    large

    3dcreation

    #172941
    bord
    Moderator
    @bord
    MembervipContributorModerator

    Thanks, @dark! I think this should be a pretty accurate map for a redraw or even just a placement map to stitch the higher resolution images onto. Common pinball measurements are accurate (.5″ rails, 1″ inserts, 1.25″ inserts, 1.5″ inserts, circles are round, etc.) Laid flat the art is 20.25 x 45. You’ll notice the top half has a slight skew to the right of center. Any redraw or stitch work should correct this or just duplicate from the bottom half and change the colors.

    Hope it is helpful.

    Attachments:
    1 user thanked author for this post.
    #172944
    Dark
    Moderator
    @dark
    vipMemberContributor

    Thanks Bord

    If you take a look through the resources so far there’s a number of overlapping close up’s that are the best quality that I asked for in order to combat the perspective warping.

     

    I’m going to attach a bunch of reference pics below:

    https://www.mediafire.com/file/jn5pouo0oxom1rp/Alvin_GCompany_A.G._Soccer_Ball.zip/file

    3dcreation

    #172956
    Dark
    Moderator
    @dark
    vipMemberContributor

    gotta get the team back together lol



    @freneticamnesic
       We have to build some weird/obscure tables again some day.  :P

    3dcreation

    #172963
    bord
    Moderator
    @bord
    MembervipContributorModerator

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Lt4Y1dzBaUUc_fvngIoePPQF2hKIaYL2

    Here is similar but with the higher resolution images. More resolution but it seems like more lens distortion, too. It was a lot harder to get images to align. You might want to overlay the two and judge which seems most accurate. No color or blending work. Lots of better candidates for that around here.

    #172967
    Dark
    Moderator
    @dark
    vipMemberContributor

    Alright I got some color swatches here from three sources that I deemed most likely to be close to new colors.  I try to sample from what I think is the most average light exposure of the color in the pics.

    AGSColorSwatches

    At this point some artistic interpretation is needed…..I guess let’s vote on colors.

    Ref image 1 (top row): colors lack some saturation, I’d say discard them all but the blue, and possibly the yellow.

    Ref image 2 (2nd row): All colors look good, blue maybe slightly under-saturated while the yellow is over saturated.

    Ref image 3 (3rd row): All colors seem slightly over saturated.

     

    Alright, lets just try reducing the saturation on the red/blue/green on the last one:

    AGSColorSwatches_reducedsaturation

     

     

    Opinions?

     

    3dcreation

    #172968
    Dark
    Moderator
    @dark
    vipMemberContributor

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Lt4Y1dzBaUUc_fvngIoePPQF2hKIaYL2

    Here is similar but with the higher resolution images. More resolution but it seems like more lens distortion, too. It was a lot harder to get images to align. You might want to overlay the two and judge which seems most accurate. No color or blending work. Lots of better candidates for that around here.



    @gwen
    be sure to check this out for the PF stitch.

    3dcreation

    #172969
    bord
    Moderator
    @bord
    MembervipContributorModerator

    Alright, lets just try reducing the saturation on the red/blue/green on the last one:

    AGSColorSwatches_reducedsaturation

    I vote #4.

Viewing 20 posts - 1 through 20 (of 97 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.

©2020 VPinBall.com

Log in with your credentials

or    

Forgot your details?

Create Account

The Vpinball app

FREE
VIEW