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  • #96879
     KiwiBri 
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    I really like PuP and thinking of replacing PinballX with it.. BUT there is one disappointment.

    For people with REAL DMDs the only support for playback is via animated GIFs at 10fps. I have some nice .avi animations that are 30fps and playback nice and crisp directly from PinballX. For PuP I used ffmpeg to convert them to 10fps animated .gifs. When viewing on the PC they look ok, but when I play them back on PuP they are definitely not as sharp and have artifacts showing. I used the script I found posted by  Nailbuster and also used my own scripts and had the same results.  :(

    Is there a chance we can have native .avi/video support for real DMDs? It should be possible as PinballX is cabaple of this.

    #96880
     outhere 
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    How did you get your videos to play in pinballx on a REAL DMD?

    The only thing it will play for me is the default – no DMD video

    #96884
     KiwiBri 
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    How did you get your videos to play in pinballx on a REAL DMD?

    The only thing it will play for me is the default – no DMD video

    I have DMDExt (https://github.com/freezy/dmd-extensions) set up.  I believe PinballX uses that .

    #96909
     gtxjoe 
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    Just put the video in the “C:\PinballX\Media\Visual Pinball\Real DMD Color Videos” folder

    #96911
     outhere 
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    Just put the video in the “C:\PinballX\Media\Visual Pinball\Real DMD Color Videos” folder

    That’s what I figured – so that’s where I have them

    Their mp4 videos

    #97027
     gtxjoe 
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    Enable them in the PinballX settings

    #97043
     outhere 
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    As soon as I put my cab back together I will check that out

    #97044
     Thalamus 
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    Might be codec problem as well. The videos I made is known to work – so, you can download them to verify. If they work – you know others should as well.

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    #98075
     KiwiBri 
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    Just putting this thread back on track.. , Is there a chance we can have native .avi/video support in PinUP Popper for real DMDs. It should be possible as PBXis capable of this, meanwhile PuP only has 10fps GIF support.

    thank you

    #98078
     NailBuster 
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    Just putting this thread back on track.. , Is there a chance we can have native .avi/video support in PinUP Popper for real DMDs. It should be possible as PBXis capable of this, meanwhile PuP only has 10fps GIF support.

    thank you

    if you’re PC is capable you can use 20 fps gifs.  Jens use to use pin2dmd and his animated gifs were pretty good.  I don’t see this changing soon…  real-dmd drivers are just not that ‘stable’ for full avi playing.

     

    #98079
     Thalamus 
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    Says who ?

    #98083
     KiwiBri 
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    Just putting this thread back on track.. , Is there a chance we can have native .avi/video support in PinUP Popper for real DMDs. It should be possible as PBXis capable of this, meanwhile PuP only has 10fps GIF support.

    thank you

    if you’re PC is capable you can use 20 fps gifs. Jens use to use pin2dmd and his animated gifs were pretty good. I don’t see this changing soon… real-dmd drivers are just not that ‘stable’ for full avi playing.

    I chatted to Jens about this last week.  Here is a comparison of GIFs I converted using the ffmpeg scripts – https://uploadfiles.io/92wxq    You will see that the resulting GIF files are dithered. There are artifacts in the letters ACDC and These show up on the DMD and look bad.  I was looking at extracting out a palette to use in the ffmpeg and trying to make a cleaner conversion from .avi /.mp4 to .gif   .   I did some poking around and I think I have a BETTER script for converting video files to GIF. I am currently doing some tests but so far the results have been better…  https://ufile.io/92wxq

    So, not as straight forward, and kind of a pain, but I guess there is a workaround . Maybe because a lot of people use LCD screens now so this hasn’t come up with others

    #98086
     Cameron 
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    It has come up for me as well. When you get it figured out, please let us know what you find so we can do it as well… The dithering makes things horrible.

     

    #98093
     NailBuster 
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    BTW  i should also say that the DMD interface is via pupscript (not-integrated inside Popper code).  Reason/Advantage to this is that is if another dev wants to change or write a driver for any device (with mp4 support), it would just require them to create an active/com object and support a few calls.  (see pup script file for the simple dmd calls)

    so current and any future devices can be supported in an open fashion without Popper changes.

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