Shaker Motor Kit – Wiring

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  • #93440
    outhere
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      @brucev

      I bought one of these — Shaker Motor Kit (Rev B) for Most Stern SAM System Games  PBL-100-0019-00 —From pinball life

      I understand this item is 12 V DC
      I’m looking for a little information on the Wiring…..

      Which wire on the motor is positive?
      Will I need to add a Diode or is that the item that’s already on the motor?

      Do I need to use the circuit board that came with it?

      If I need to use the board which color wire on the harnessed will be the positive?

       

      #93446
      randr
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        @randr
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        you need a diode! do NOT use the pcb that came with it. don’t matter what wire you hook +V to it will just turn clockwise or counter clockwise depending on what way you hook it up.

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        #93537
        HauntFreaks
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          @hauntfreaks
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          yes… when people are looking to buy these kits, find the one that has no circuit board with it, it will save you a few dollars…

          #93565
          outhere
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            @brucev

            Randr – Thanks for your help

            HauntFreaks – Good idea and hopefully more people will see this posting

            #93566
            randr
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              @randr
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              You will love the shaker. Best feedback item you can have simulates magnets too and is just perfect amount of rumble.

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              #94201
              outhere
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                @brucev

                Should i leave the Capacitor that’s on the motor were it is?

                How close does the diode need to be to the motor?

                This refers to the small circuit board? — >pcb<

                Thanks for your help

                 

                #94204
                randr
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                  @randr
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                  Leave the capacitor on.

                  diode should be as close to motor as you can so really just  hook it in wherever its convenient and you will be ok just make sure the band on diode is pointing towards +v

                  You do not need the PCB that came with it and dont use it. I use a H-bridge to control the shaker  motor and works great.

                   

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                  #94213
                  TerryRed
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                    Yes, I initially used the circuit board, and it burnt out one of my h-bridge outputs…

                    Don’t use that board.

                     

                    Just a diode with an h bridge worked fine…or some kind of octo-coupler i think,etc should work well.\

                    #94214
                    outhere
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                      @brucev

                      I know nothing about H-bridges

                      do you recommend one and also a link

                      how do you hook them up?
                      do you use an Ledwiz with it?

                      Thanks for your help

                      #94215
                      randr
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                        @randr
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                        Provided terry with drawings for his and links maybe he has them handy. What controller are you using? Ledwiz? Pinscape?

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                        #94217
                        outhere
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                          @brucev

                          Provided terry with drawings for his and links maybe he has them handy. What controller are you using? Ledwiz? Pinscape?

                          I have a Ledwiz

                          #94224
                          randr
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                            @randr
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                            Perfect! I can up diagrams if terry don’t beat me to it

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                            #94225
                            outhere
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                              @brucev

                              Please do

                              Thank you

                              #94239
                              TerryRed
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                                @terryred
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                                h bridge-for-terry

                                #94242
                                outhere
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                                  @brucev

                                  This looks like the same one

                                  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XR1YNH4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

                                  Thanks TerryRed and randr

                                  #94244
                                  randr
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                                    Yeah they are around $1.50-$3.00 each work great. Keep in mind you hook this to the ledwiz input. Not the normal outputs of the ledwiz.

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                                    #94247
                                    outhere
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                                      @brucev

                                      OK thanks for let me know
                                      What port will this be using?
                                      With this H-bridge will I be of a control the speed from 1 to Max With the DOF Software?

                                       

                                      #94248
                                      randr
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                                        @randr
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                                        If you hook it up like that picture then output number 12 is not used on ledwiz and in dof you set shaker to output 12 port and yes this will allow the intensity to work in tool

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                                        #94270
                                        outhere
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                                          @brucev

                                          If you set your intensity at ONE on the DOF website using a H-bridge how fast do you figure your motor is running – about half speed or quarter speed or barely moving…

                                          Using a Ledwiz and one of these solid State relays – if I set the intensity to ONE….. I’m able to run the motor at half speed or maybe a little less…

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                                          Have you ever worked with this type of relay?

                                          #94273
                                          randr
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                                            @randr
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                                            Have not used that relay but relays don’t relay work well for pwm so the h bridge will be much better for motor control. At setting of 1 I don’t think motor would be hardly turning on my setup

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