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     The Loafer 
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    From what I understand on how it works, playfield hologram videos should work just fine but at one big sacrifice: no exclusive fullscreen mode

    i guess one possible way around this limitation; if somehow the vpx source could Incorporate PinUp source so that the rendering of the video element is on the same layer?  Of course I could be totally freaking wrong on how this works lol

    #68989
     TerryRed 
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    From what I understand on how it works, playfield hologram videos should work just fine but at one big sacrifice: no exclusive fullscreen mode i guess one possible way around this limitation; if somehow the vpx source could Incorporate PinUp source so that the rendering of the video element is on the same layer? Of course I could be totally freaking wrong on how this works lol

    PinUp Player just uses VLC Player to play the videos. So, yes you could add what “looks” like an overlay video on the playfield screen, but yes it won’t work with exclusive fullscreen. So, basically PinUp Player will play videos fine for Desktop users similar to how you see an Overlay Video in FP in desktop view, but you will need to run in Windowed Fullscreen to see them….just like you would have to for UltraDMD videos, or dmdext on the desktop screen.

    As for playfield hologram videos (not overlays) in FP, that cannot be recreated by PinUp Player for VPX as those are actual table elements just like a bumper or any other 3D object with a texture / image.

    @randr, didn’t you use some kind of hologram / overlay image sequence for Mad Scientist’s startup video? If VPX “can” do that, then why don’t more people use it for videos? I honestly don’t know what VPX can or can’t do with images like that.

     

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     randr 
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    I did “Video” in my cftbl mode, Mopar madness and mad scientist builds. But the “video” is just animated stills but effect was ok

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    #68993
     TerryRed 
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    I did “Video” in my cftbl mode, Mopar madness and mad scientist builds. But the “video” is just animated stills but effect was ok

    The “videos” in FP are also just animated stills. I had to import almost 1000 images for MOTU! Then you create playlists and then just play them as you will. They can be either an overlay (can be used for playfield or backglass elements), a HUD overlay (which displays over top of everything…normally for desktop view), or a hologram (used as a playfield element only, with transparency,etc).

     

    What ways can you use animated stills with VP? Obviously only for the playfield screen…. but just as an overlay, or a table element as well?

    #68994
     randr 
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    I will PM you my CFTBL mod in that VP9 build i just emulated the real mod so the video is triggered by switches, lights and buttons just like real mod i have in my CFTBL

    Never released it as many builds ive done never see the light of day but is VERY cool!

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    From what I understand on how it works, playfield hologram videos should work just fine but at one big sacrifice: no exclusive fullscreen mode i guess one possible way around this limitation; if somehow the vpx source could Incorporate PinUp source so that the rendering of the video element is on the same layer? Of course I could be totally freaking wrong on how this works lol

    PinUp Player just uses VLC Player to play the videos. So, yes you could add what “looks” like an overlay video on the playfield screen, but yes it won’t work with exclusive fullscreen. So, basically PinUp Player will play videos fine for Desktop users similar to how you see an Overlay Video in FP in desktop view, but you will need to run in Windowed Fullscreen to see them….just like you would have to for UltraDMD videos, or dmdext on the desktop screen. As for playfield hologram videos (not overlays) in FP, that cannot be recreated by PinUp Player for VPX as those are actual table elements just like a bumper or any other 3D object with a texture / image. @randr, didn’t you use some kind of hologram / overlay image sequence for Mad Scientist’s startup video? If VPX “can” do that, then why don’t more people use it for videos? I honestly don’t know what VPX can or can’t do with images like that.

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     TerryRed 
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    From what I understand on how it works, playfield hologram videos should work just fine but at one big sacrifice: no exclusive fullscreen mode i guess one possible way around this limitation; if somehow the vpx source could Incorporate PinUp source so that the rendering of the video element is on the same layer? Of course I could be totally freaking wrong on how this works lol

    PinUp Player just uses VLC Player to play the videos. So, yes you could add what “looks” like an overlay video on the playfield screen, but yes it won’t work with exclusive fullscreen. So, basically PinUp Player will play videos fine for Desktop users similar to how you see an Overlay Video in FP in desktop view, but you will need to run in Windowed Fullscreen to see them….just like you would have to for UltraDMD videos, or dmdext on the desktop screen. As for playfield hologram videos (not overlays) in FP, that cannot be recreated by PinUp Player for VPX as those are actual table elements just like a bumper or any other 3D object with a texture / image. @randr, didn’t you use some kind of hologram / overlay image sequence for Mad Scientist’s startup video? If VPX “can” do that, then why don’t more people use it for videos? I honestly don’t know what VPX can or can’t do with images like that.

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    I totally was thinking about you Carney when  messing with this program.  Since it uses VLC, do you think its possible to have its output flipped so it would work for your setup?

    Either way, it wouldn’t matter, as you could use Conver-it, or something similar to do an easy batch conversion of the videos and pics to have them flipped. This would look so cool on your setup!

    #69013
     CarnyPriest 
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    Yep, no problem. If the software doesn’t support it then I would just flip the media, but VLC itself has a vflip filter:

    https://wiki.videolan.org/VLC_command-line_help/

    Developer just needs to add it to UI.


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    #69021
     randr 
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    @carnypriest I have extra SWE1 kit i should make that style cab install the SWE1 playfield and run a pc with that emulator on it. wonder if that would all work just need power supplies for playfield maybe need more?

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    #69033
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    Switches, lights, bumpers, flippers, control boards, on and on…

    #69035
     CarnyPriest 
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    Nucore was released as a free download earlier this year. Might be easier just to work on getting it into VPM/VPX. I think it’s fair game now.


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    Anything further Terry that you know of? I saw you said Russell was looking to release the Pro version of Blade Runner I think it was before Christmas?

    He sure does beautiful work.

    #73615
     TerryRed 
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    Anything further Terry that you know of? I saw you said Russell was looking to release the Pro version of Blade Runner I think it was before Christmas? He sure does beautiful work.

    I only know what he posts on his site.  For roughly the last year, he was given a new position at his job with Heighway Pinball, and as a result he wasn’t publicly releasing his games until he no longer worked for the company. So none of his games have been released since then.

    Well he just recently posted that he will lose his job at the end of next month. He said that he won’t ever sell his FP games, but he has mentioned he was considering adding a donation link to his site….and if there is enough interest….he’ll release all of his updated Ultimate Pro tables for everyone.

    I have no problem with him adding a donation link. Most of the main virtual pinball sites have them. Just make the tables available to everyone…no VIP stuff.  :)

     


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