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  • #113889
     ze-bob 
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    Hi all, on my main machine that serves me every day I was in Windows 7, after the transition to Windows 10 I have a problem with VPX 10.6 and older versions also (10.5 or VP9.x), at the opening of the table script the program freezes, the script page is empty and it uses the CPU at about 15-20%.
    This is the only trouble, I can play all tables without problem.
    I of course tried to uninstall and reinstall but the problem persists, basically I do not know what to do.

    Here is my configuration:

    Intel Core i7-3770
    RAM 20Go
    Windows 10 PRO 64
    GTX 1050Ti
    Driver 411.70

    The configuration is the same as my Pincab (RAM size is different) that turns perfectly.

    Thank you.

     

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    Pincab setup:
    Core i7 870 + 16Go RAM, GTX 1050Ti, Win10 Pro.

    #113892
     randr 
    Keymaster
    ModeratorMember

    Is your vp installation in c:\vp or program files folder? could be permissions issue with windows 10 if installed in programfiles location

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    #113894
     ze-bob 
    Participant

    The installation is in Program files folder, i’m the owner of the directory and i have full control on it.
    If it’s possible to make a bug report, but i don’t know how to.

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    Pincab setup:
    Core i7 870 + 16Go RAM, GTX 1050Ti, Win10 Pro.

    #113897
     randr 
    Keymaster
    ModeratorMember

    There is no bug something is not right with your install though. Make sure no dll’s are blocked and try a non rom table for a test maybe just try default table that is built into vp to rule out pinmame issue.

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    #113909
     ze-bob 
    Participant

    I tested “Nudge Test and Calibration” table, the problem is the same.
    How can i unlock DLL to try this way ?
    Thank you for the time spent helping me.

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    Pincab setup:
    Core i7 870 + 16Go RAM, GTX 1050Ti, Win10 Pro.

    #113910
     randr 
    Keymaster
    ModeratorMember

    Start by right clicking some dll files in vp directory and check if blocked also check permissions I suspect you have either but permissions maybe the main thing going on here. Also disable virus software like windows defender maybe

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    #113914
     ze-bob 
    Participant

    There is no blocked DLL, i use ESET NOD32 and there is an exclusion for the VP folder.

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    Pincab setup:
    Core i7 870 + 16Go RAM, GTX 1050Ti, Win10 Pro.

    #113915
     Thalamus 
    Moderator
    ContributorMemberModerator

    Don’t – just don’t put VP in program files folder. You are asking for troubles. You believe you are the owner of that folder – not fully, believe me. Keep away from ANY windows generated folders and you will have a much easier VP life.

    And why may I ask are you running anti-virus ? Turn it off, uninstall VP – put it where it belongs c:\VP or whatever.

    #113917
     ze-bob 
    Participant

    I tested this:
    – Turn off NOD32.
    – Uninstall VP.
    – Rename the registry Key.
    – Install VP in C:\VP.

    Don’t work, i will turn crazy.

    Can it be a C++ file problem, like something is not present in Windows ?

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    Pincab setup:
    Core i7 870 + 16Go RAM, GTX 1050Ti, Win10 Pro.

    #113919
     Thalamus 
    Moderator
    ContributorMemberModerator

    Not for regular VP. If you run eg. Freezy’ you need .net something. Same goes for Pupper, PBX. Almost all of them has some kind of extra requirement. You did use the “all-in-one” installer ?

    #113920
     randr 
    Keymaster
    ModeratorMember

    @ ze-bob did you use the all in one installer? that should take care of all permission issues if installed ic c:\visual pinball

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    #113922
     ze-bob 
    Participant

    I have tested the AIO installer to test but no succes, i think that is Windows causes this issue.
    The strange thing is that this trouble is only present on one PC, the 2 others are under Win 10 with no problem (no AIO installer, just standalone version and manual installations), in this one before in Windows Seven all was fine.

    I will be back tomorrow, thank you to all for help me, it’s very appreciated.

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    Pincab setup:
    Core i7 870 + 16Go RAM, GTX 1050Ti, Win10 Pro.

    #113923
     Thalamus 
    Moderator
    ContributorMemberModerator

    Yeah – well, that might be part of you problem I think. All-in-one tries to install DX9 which I don’t think Win10 comes with directly out of the box ? I’m not 100% sure about it – but believe so.

    #113924
     randr 
    Keymaster
    ModeratorMember

    @thalamus I dont think even windows 7 came with direct x 9!

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    #113925
     outhere 
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    MemberContributor

    I think windows 7 and higher you have to Install direct X9 For VP 9.9.0  and higher

    #113965
     ze-bob 
    Participant

    I’m back, so in Win10 i have DX12 installed, i had a look into the Windows Event Log but nothing, just “application hang”, nothing else.
    Perhaps an error with .NET Framework, which version is correct, if needed ?

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    Pincab setup:
    Core i7 870 + 16Go RAM, GTX 1050Ti, Win10 Pro.

    #113968
     Thalamus 
    Moderator
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    As I said. The requirements are included in the all in one installer. It contains DX9 runtime and some net – don’t remember which. Then I know that I have had to install a few .net versions since then. I could next time I turn on my pin make a picture of what I have installed though. Could be a smart thing to do for myself just in case the hd blows totally. I don’t take full snapshots, I must admit.

    #113972
     ze-bob 
    Participant

    I made a test, i ran Windows 7 with the old disk to see what are the differences between these VP installations.
    In Win7 Directx is Ver11 instead of Ver12, the only thing i can see (I think I love windows 7 !).
    I will try “again” to uninstall and install the All in One installer, it’s a bit confusing.

    Thank you for helping me find the solution.

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    Pincab setup:
    Core i7 870 + 16Go RAM, GTX 1050Ti, Win10 Pro.

    #114092
     ze-bob 
    Participant

    I have logged the hang situation, if someone can understand all of these lines.

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    Pincab setup:
    Core i7 870 + 16Go RAM, GTX 1050Ti, Win10 Pro.

    #114097
     randr 
    Keymaster
    ModeratorMember

    VP 10.6 is BETA and also is crashing for me. maybe stick with VP 10.5 if you dont want any strange crashing or hanging? Assuming your running 10.6 Beta looking at log

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    So if you haven't downloaded app yet what are you waiting for!?
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