Weird issue after updating PinballX…

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  • #113821
    Watacaractr
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      @watacaractr

      Hey everyone. I’ve got a really weird issue when starting PinballX and shuffling through tables after updating to the latest version. Mind you, I had NO issues whatsoever before the update. When PBX starts, the table that was chosen from before, shows for about half a second in a higher resolution, the screen goes black for about 3 – 5 seconds (almost as if it is automatically trying to adjust for a new resolution), then when the table finally shows, it’s at a lower resolution altogether. Unfortunately, it also does it when shuffling to the next table.. Screen goes black, waits 3-5 seconds, adjusts, and then shows the table. It’s very obnoxious and irritating. Here’s the kicker, when I have it hooked to my PC desktop monitor, instead of my 46″ cabinet screen, it works flawlessly. Also I’ve noticed on some of the tables in attract mode that the info ticker at the bottom is cut off. Any clue what it might be? Like I said, it did not do this before the update. Any help or suggestions would be welcome. I’m stumped. :wacko:

      Thanks in advance…

      P.S. I made GIFs for my loading screen before this update and they worked perfectly. I notice now that they do not work at all after updating. Anyone else have this issue as well?

      #113823
      outhere
      Moderator
        @outhere

        Post log and ini file

        #113824
        Watacaractr
        Participant
          @watacaractr

          INI:

          [Display]
          Monitor=0
          rotate=270
          windowed=False
          WindowWidth=1080
          WindowHeight=1920
          WindowX=0
          WindowY=0
          PlayFieldBrightness=230
          WheelTextColor=ffffffff
          WheelTextOutlineColor=ff002346
          InfoTextColor=ffffffff
          InfoTextOutlineColor=ff002346
          FilterTextColor=ffffffff
          FilterTextOutlineColor=ff002346
          MenuColor=ff0063c6
          FullScreenWindowed=True
          WheelAutoCrop=True
          ShowExitImage=False
          ShowExitImageFor=2
          [BackGlass]
          monitor=1
          x=0
          y=0
          width=1366
          height=768
          AutoPositionB2S=False
          [DMD]
          Enabled=True
          monitor=2
          x=0
          y=0
          width=1366
          height=768
          AutoPositionPinMAME=False
          UsePinMAME=False
          HidePinMAME=False
          [FileSystem]
          EnableFileMatching=True
          [Interface]
          DesktopModeEnabled=False
          EnableAdditionalDetail=False
          ShowSystem=False
          ShowRatings=False
          EnableDefaultFilters=False
          [Audio]
          StreamVolume=90
          SampleVolume=90
          PlaySoundInVideos=True
          [Startup]
          playsound=False
          playvideo=False
          StartWithWindows=No
          [KeyCodes]
          quit=27
          left=37
          right=39
          select=49
          rotate=82
          pageleft=33
          pageright=34
          exitemulator=27
          ingame=80
          screenshot=83
          screenshotbackglass=66
          instructions=73
          volumedown=109
          volumeup=107
          credit=53
          plunger=164
          launch=50
          capturevideos=86
          [JoyCodes]
          quit=7
          left=9
          right=1
          select=8
          rotate=
          pageleft=
          pageright=
          exitemulator=7
          ingame=
          instructions=
          [Text]
          Line1=Pinball Paradise
          Line2=presents
          Featuring=Featuring
          Tables=Tables
          PlayGame=Play Game
          Instructions=Instructions
          Information=Information
          Flyer=Flyer
          Gameplay=Gameplay
          Tutorial=Tutorial
          ExitGame=Exit Game
          ReturnToGame=Return to Game
          Return=Return
          Exit=Exit
          Shutdown=Shutdown
          All=Press start
          [FuturePinball]
          Enabled=True
          WorkingPath=C:\Future Pinball\BAM
          TablePath=C:\Future Pinball\Tables
          Executable=Future Pinball.exe
          Parameters=/STAYINRAM /open “[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]” /play /exit /arcaderender
          LaunchBeforeEnabled=True
          LaunchBeforeWorkingPath=C:\Future Pinball
          LaunchBeforeExecutable=FutureDMD.exe
          LaunchBeforeHideWindow=False
          LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=False
          LaunchAfterEnabled=False
          LaunchAfterWorkingPath=
          LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exe
          LaunchAfterHideWindow=False
          LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True
          MouseClickFocus=True
          FPRAMPath=C:\Future Pinball\fpRAM
          LaunchBeforeParameters=table=”[TABLEFILE]” close=1
          [VisualPinball]
          Enabled=True
          WorkingPath=C:\Visual Pinball
          TablePath=C:\Visual Pinball\Tables
          Executable=Visual Pinball.exe
          Parameters=/play -“[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]”
          LaunchBeforeEnabled=False
          LaunchBeforeWorkingPath=
          LaunchBeforeExecutable=
          LaunchBeforeHideWindow=False
          LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=False
          LaunchAfterEnabled=False
          LaunchAfterWorkingPath=
          LaunchAfterExecutable=notepad.exe
          LaunchAfterHideWindow=False
          LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True
          AutoConfigure=True
          EnableFullScreenExclusiveHack=True
          LaunchBeforeParameters=
          [ExitScreen]
          Enabled=True
          EnableExit=True
          EnableShutdown=True
          [StartupProgram]
          Enabled=True
          WorkingPath=C:\Joy to Key
          Executable=JoyToKey.exe
          Paramaters=
          HideWindow=True
          WaitForExit=False
          Parameters=
          [ExitProgram]
          Enabled=false
          WorkingPath=
          Executable=notepad.exe
          Paramaters=
          HideWindow=False
          WaitForExit=
          [AttractMode]
          Enabled=True
          Timer=60
          ShowFor=120
          MuteAudio=False
          [System_1]
          Name=VPX
          Enabled=True
          WorkingPath=C:\Visual Pinball
          TablePath=C:\Visual Pinball\Tables
          Executable=VPX.exe
          Parameters=/play -“[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]”
          SystemType=1
          LaunchAfterEnabled=False
          LaunchAfterWorkingPath=
          LaunchAfterExecutable=
          LaunchBeforeWorkingPath=
          LaunchBeforeExecutable=
          LaunchBeforeParameters=
          [AutoExit]
          Enabled=False
          Minutes=10
          [Login]
          Enabled=False
          [PinballFX2]
          Enabled=True
          WorkingPath=C:\Pinball FX2
          Executable=Pinball FX2.exe
          Parameters=-applaunch 226980 “[TABLEFILE]”
          Process=Pinball FX2.exe
          Rotate=False
          WaitFor=15
          LaunchAfterEnabled=True
          LaunchAfterWorkingPath=C:\PinballX
          LaunchAfterExecutable=KillPFX2.bat
          LaunchAfterWaitForExit=True
          LaunchAfterHideWindow=True
          [Internal]
          lastwheelcachematchsize=-1123
          lastselected=Tom and JerryTom and JerrySystem_1
          filter_year=
          filter_company=
          filter_custom=
          filtername=Tables
          filter_favorites=False
          filter_lastplayed=False
          filter_mostplayed=False
          filter_rating=0
          [PinballArcade]
          WorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam
          Executable=steam.exe
          Parameters=-applaunch 238260
          Process=PinballArcade.exe
          WaitForSelect=50
          [GameListManager]
          onlinemode=false
          [RealDMD]
          EnableColor=False
          Color=ffff1414
          [SetupWizard]
          EmuPath1=C:\Emulators
          AssetPath1=C:\Assets
          RomPath1=C:\Roms
          DefaultPathPrompt=True
          DownloadDatabasePrompt=True
          DownloadEmulatorPrompt=True
          WizardMode=Advanced
          CustomArray=
          SearchArray=
          SavePosition=False
          SectionIndex=7
          SearchText=
          EmulatorIndex=0
          EmulatorGroupIndex=0
          DaphneIndex=0
          HTMLAppsIndex=0
          ExternalAppsIndex=0
          RadioStationsIndex=0
          NewsFeedsIndex=0
          MappedDrivesIndex=0
          SystemIndex=1
          ShowPanel=True
          FontSize=1
          WindowState=Normal
          WindowSize=650, 690
          WindowLocation=338, 175
          [Topper]
          monitor=4
          [System_2]
          Name=Future Pinball 3D
          Enabled=True
          SystemType=2
          WorkingPath=C:\Future Pinball 3D\BAM
          TablePath=C:\Future Pinball 3D\Tables
          Executable=Future Pinball 3D.exe
          Parameters=/STAYINRAM /open “[TABLEPATH]\[TABLEFILE]” /play /exit /arcaderender
          LaunchBeforeEnabled=True
          LaunchBeforeWorkingPath=C:\Future Pinball 3D
          LaunchBeforeExecutable=FutureDMD.exe
          LaunchBeforeParameters=table=”[TABLEFILE]” close=1
          LaunchBeforeWaitForExit=False
          LaunchBeforeHideWindow=False
          [PinballFX3]
          Enabled=True
          WorkingPath=C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam
          Executable=steam.exe
          Parameters=-applaunch 442120 “-table_[TABLEFILE]”
          Process=Pinball FX3.exe
          WaitFor=15
          LaunchAfterEnabled=True
          LaunchAfterWorkingPath=C:\PinballX
          LaunchAfterExecutable=KillPFX3.bat
          [GameManager]
          AutoAddTables=False

          #113825
          Watacaractr
          Participant
            @watacaractr

            LOG:

            17:54:29.2 2/10/2019: PinballX – Version 3.28
            17:54:29.3 2/10/2019: Windows 7 Ultimate Service Pack 1 64-bit (8GB)
            17:54:29.3 2/10/2019: Loading Settings
            17:54:29.3 2/10/2019: Launching Startup Program: JoyToKey.exe
            17:54:29.3 2/10/2019: C:\Joy to Key\JoyToKey.exe
            17:54:29.3 2/10/2019: Initialize Component
            17:54:29.4 2/10/2019: Initialize Display
            17:54:29.4 2/10/2019: Loading PlugIns
            17:54:29.5 2/10/2019: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
            17:54:29.5 2/10/2019: Created DirectX DMD Window
            17:54:29.5 2/10/2019: Looking for startup images
            17:54:29.5 2/10/2019: Testing Flash engine.
            17:54:29.5 2/10/2019: Hiding Cursor
            17:54:29.6 2/10/2019: Hiding Taskbar
            17:54:29.6 2/10/2019: Getting GPU Information
            17:54:29.6 2/10/2019: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4690 CPU @ 3.50GHz
            17:54:29.6 2/10/2019: GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970
            17:54:29.6 2/10/2019: Displays: 3
            17:54:29.6 2/10/2019: Loading Font
            17:54:29.6 2/10/2019: Load Game List
            17:54:29.6 2/10/2019: Loading Database: Pinball FX2
            17:54:29.6 2/10/2019: Loading Database: Pinball FX3
            17:54:29.6 2/10/2019: Loading Database: Future Pinball
            17:54:29.6 2/10/2019: Loading Database: Visual Pinball
            17:54:29.6 2/10/2019: Loading Database: VPX
            17:54:29.6 2/10/2019: Loading Database: Future Pinball 3D
            17:54:29.6 2/10/2019: Initial load gamelist took: 46ms
            17:54:29.6 2/10/2019: Finding and matching artwork and videos
            17:54:30.4 2/10/2019: Took: 733ms
            17:54:30.4 2/10/2019: Loading Game Statistics and Scores
            17:54:30.6 2/10/2019: Main display running full screen windowed.
            17:54:30.6 2/10/2019: Loading Surfaces
            17:54:30.6 2/10/2019: Finished Loading Surfaces
            17:54:30.6 2/10/2019: Initialize Audio
            17:54:30.7 2/10/2019: Set Keyboard Controls
            17:54:30.7 2/10/2019: Initialize Joystick
            17:54:30.7 2/10/2019: Auto configure Visual Pinball
            17:54:30.7 2/10/2019: 2 Joysticks Attached
            17:54:30.7 2/10/2019: Started
            17:54:39.2 2/10/2019: Launch System
            17:54:39.2 2/10/2019: Waiting for threads
            17:54:39.2 2/10/2019: Disposing display
            17:54:40.4 2/10/2019: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steam.exe -applaunch 442120 “-table_Amusement_Park”
            17:54:56.2 2/10/2019: Found Pinball FX 3 Process
            17:56:47.4 2/10/2019: Exit System Control Pressed
            17:56:49.8 2/10/2019: C:\PinballX\KillPFX3.bat
            17:56:54.1 2/10/2019: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
            17:56:54.1 2/10/2019: Created DirectX DMD Window
            17:56:54.4 2/10/2019: Main display running full screen windowed.
            17:57:18.1 2/10/2019: Launch System
            17:57:18.1 2/10/2019: Waiting for threads
            17:57:18.1 2/10/2019: Disposing display
            17:57:20.2 2/10/2019: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steam.exe -applaunch 442120 “-table_UNIVERSAL_BTTF”
            17:57:35.9 2/10/2019: Found Pinball FX 3 Process
            18:01:02.2 2/10/2019: Exit System Control Pressed
            18:01:04.5 2/10/2019: C:\PinballX\KillPFX3.bat
            18:01:08.8 2/10/2019: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
            18:01:08.9 2/10/2019: Created DirectX DMD Window
            18:01:09.1 2/10/2019: Main display running full screen windowed.
            18:02:35.3 2/10/2019: Launch System
            18:02:35.3 2/10/2019: Waiting for threads
            18:02:35.3 2/10/2019: Disposing display
            18:02:36.5 2/10/2019: C:\Visual Pinball\VPX.exe /play -“C:\Visual Pinball\Tables\Tom and Jerry.vpx”
            18:02:36.5 2/10/2019: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
            18:02:51.9 2/10/2019: Hidden Visual Pinball Editor Window
            18:15:27.9 2/10/2019: Exit System Control Pressed
            18:15:31.4 2/10/2019: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
            18:15:31.4 2/10/2019: Created DirectX DMD Window
            18:15:31.7 2/10/2019: Main display running full screen windowed.
            18:16:16.2 2/10/2019: Launch System
            18:16:16.2 2/10/2019: Waiting for threads
            18:16:16.2 2/10/2019: Disposing display
            18:16:17.4 2/10/2019: C:\Visual Pinball\VPX.exe /play -“C:\Visual Pinball\Tables\Viking.vpx”
            18:16:17.4 2/10/2019: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
            18:16:25.1 2/10/2019: Hidden Visual Pinball Editor Window
            18:16:26.2 2/10/2019: Found PinMAME ROM: vikingb.nv
            18:16:32.7 2/10/2019: Exit System Control Pressed
            18:16:35.6 2/10/2019: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
            18:16:35.6 2/10/2019: Created DirectX DMD Window
            18:16:35.9 2/10/2019: Main display running full screen windowed.
            18:17:32.9 2/10/2019: Launch System
            18:17:32.9 2/10/2019: Waiting for threads
            18:17:32.1 2/10/2019: Disposing display
            18:17:34.2 2/10/2019: C:\Visual Pinball\VPX.exe /play -“C:\Visual Pinball\Tables\Whitewater.vpx”
            18:17:34.2 2/10/2019: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
            18:17:42.6 2/10/2019: Hidden Visual Pinball Editor Window
            18:17:44.4 2/10/2019: Found PinMAME ROM: ww_l5.nv
            18:20:15.0 2/10/2019: Exit System Control Pressed
            18:20:18.1 2/10/2019: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
            18:20:18.1 2/10/2019: Created DirectX DMD Window
            18:20:18.3 2/10/2019: Main display running full screen windowed.
            18:21:00.5 2/10/2019: Launch System
            18:21:00.5 2/10/2019: Waiting for threads
            18:21:00.5 2/10/2019: Disposing display
            18:21:01.7 2/10/2019: C:\Visual Pinball\VPX.exe /play -“C:\Visual Pinball\Tables\Tom and Jerry.vpx”
            18:21:01.7 2/10/2019: C:\PinballX\vpauto.exe
            18:21:17.1 2/10/2019: Hidden Visual Pinball Editor Window
            18:30:58.8 2/10/2019: Exit System Control Pressed
            18:31:02.3 2/10/2019: Created DirectX BackGlass Window
            18:31:02.3 2/10/2019: Created DirectX DMD Window
            18:31:02.6 2/10/2019: Main display running full screen windowed.
            18:31:22.4 2/10/2019: Exiting
            18:31:22.4 2/10/2019: Showing Taskbar
            18:31:22.4 2/10/2019: Unhiding Mouse Cursor
            18:31:22.4 2/10/2019: Disposing Plugins
            18:31:22.4 2/10/2019: Saving Settings
            18:31:22.4 2/10/2019: Bye

            #113829
            Watacaractr
            Participant
              @watacaractr

              Here are the ini and log files. Can anyone help?

              #113831
              Thalamus
              Moderator
                @thalamus

                Sorry. I’ve never studied the log files on my setup as they work. I haven’t run any of the very latest releases as PBX here works exactly how I want it to. Maybe you should try to jump back some versions. You can pick what version you want to that download/changelog button. Have to rush to work very soon, been delayed quite a bit by snow this morning so hit me up if you want to know what version I’m running.

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                #113833
                outhere
                Moderator
                  @outhere

                  This is a first for me hearing this type of problem but did you try reinstalling the LAV Filters

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                  #113834
                  Watacaractr
                  Participant
                    @watacaractr

                    @outhere. No. will install tomorrow and see what happens. Thank you.

                    …And thanks for the downgrade suggestion Thalamus. Will try that if all else fails.

                    #113981
                    Watacaractr
                    Participant
                      @watacaractr

                      UPDATE: @outhere.. Tried the updated LAV filters, no luck. @Thalamus.. Went ahead and downgraded to PBX 2.65, which has everything working as before. Even got my GIFs working again. So thank you. Funny side note though. When I downloaded 2.67 and installed, I still got the black screen issue. BUT when I downloaded the 2.65 version, the issue was gone. I took the liberty of copying what Tom Spiers said about the 2.67 version… “In addition in this release all video rendering (as in video files) is now hardware accelerated. On modern systems this means 60fps and 4k videos should not be on an issue. On low end systems video playback should not slow anything down and you should get full fps in PinballX.” Needless to say, there is a problem with my table videos being hardware accelerated. Like I said before though, it worked fine when I hooked up my PC monitor, but didn’t work for my 46″ cabinet screen. :( Oh well, I’m obviously only able to use 2.65, so it looks like no more updated versions for me for now. Thanks everyone.

                      #113984
                      Thalamus
                      Moderator
                        @thalamus

                        Hmm. That was a long jump back. When I saw your message I had to check. Seems I’m running 3.18. My table videos are in 1080p though.

                        #174558
                        CainArg
                        Participant
                          @cainarg

                          Hi!

                           

                          Same problem here! I installed everything on a pc with a nvidia gtx970 and everything is running fine…

                          Copied those files on a PC with a Radeon Vega 56 and have the same problem descripted above, PinballX goes to a black screen when loading table video with table audio running fine. If I unload table videos I can shuffle everything smooth.

                          Yesterday I got an error that “application access to graphics hardware blocked”…

                          Both machines have the same and actual versions of Pinball X (and of course Visual Pinball)

                          Any help?

                           

                          Thanks for all!!!!!!!!!!!!

                          #174601
                          Thalamus
                          Moderator
                            @thalamus

                            I’ve since then “upgraded” to PinballY. I recommend that you give that a try first and foremost. Last time I tried PBX, it crashed on me too and I only use the file structure, xml-files and very seldomly the front-end app (don’t remember what it is named )for importing a wheel image or something like that. This is only because I have a very odd naming the tables and systems that tries to be smart, will break it.

                            Giving it a try – won’t hurt you as it is able to see that PinballX is installed and will ask you if you want to let PinballY use the same files.

                            http://mjrnet.org/pinscape/PinballY.php

                            If you don’t like it – just uninstall it.

                            #174602
                            scutters
                            Participant
                              @scutters

                              Hi!

                              Same problem here! I installed everything on a pc with a nvidia gtx970 and everything is running fine…

                              Copied those files on a PC with a Radeon Vega 56 and have the same problem descripted above, PinballX goes to a black screen when loading table video with table audio running fine. If I unload table videos I can shuffle everything smooth.

                              Yesterday I got an error that “application access to graphics hardware blocked”…

                              Both machines have the same and actual versions of Pinball X (and of course Visual Pinball)

                              Any help?

                              Thanks for all!!!!!!!!!!!!

                              Have you installed the latest LAV filters from pinballx homepage? https://www.pinballx.com/

                              Need to see your log file really to see errors, but you might be better posting over at gameex so Tom can respond if there is a problem specific to your setup.

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