what FP to VPX tables should there be

[freneticamnesic]

OK I’ve given it an evening of work and think, for the most part, it’s easy to convert the script to VP. The hard part is the UltraDMD stuff. If it’s all text based scoring, the conversion is easy. You could probably write a macro to speed it up, and possibly even convert image based displays pretty easily. I wouldn’t enjoy it though.

There’s still a lot of hurdles to overcome, FP has built in “record keeping” of sorts, your scores are saved natively. A lot of other commands are handled in a way I Don’t understand so I had to dim them in VP and guessed their original value or state.

I have about 80% of the Space Cadet code ported to VP, may need input from an FP guru on what do do with the other 20%, and last is maybe talking to someone familiar with UltraDMD who can help with an easier routine, specifically for this table. The original FP table has like 4 score displays. I think I can set each value to a corner of the UltraDMD window but all I can do is send text to it.

So I started about 2pm today and spent maybe..6 or 7 hours on it, here’s where it’s at now.

Punch it!

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[randr]

Unreal wow the hell! Looks good and amazing to convert the script. Great job I think you should do a video on that!

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[TerryRed]

Sometimes, it just takes only one person to start..and others may follow.

Good stuff.

I’m a big believer in video tutorials…they are good for answering questions, and keeps you from typing alot.

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[freneticamnesic]

True but I’m not a good teacher. I have more questions than answers right now lol

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[randr]

your a good teacher.

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[freneticamnesic]

You’re*

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[randr]

freneticamnesic wrote:

You’re*

YOU ARE A GOOD TEACHER

I really do not like you!

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[ICPjuggla]

lol guys

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[Drybonz]

HauntFreaks wrote:

yeah man…. it looks unreal beautiful…. this is a screenshot , not that you would play from this angle… here a good example, Asteroid Annie I did in FP a couple years ago  

I don’t think VPX is too far from that, really.  Hopefully, though, some of those nicer features from FP eventually show up in VP and we have the best of both worlds.

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[HauntFreaks]

like i tell my wife….

there is one your <—your

there is one there <— there

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[Unclewilly]

I’d like to do dead hunters or 3 angels or maybe one of steves tables with the holograms.

 

I converted one of popottes em tables,  maybe it was kings and queens.  I can’t remember off the top of my head.  But the conversion was fairly easy.  I’m not very familiar with ultra dmd,  but if i recall i don’t think dead hunters or 3 angels have a dmd.  I may be wrong it’s been a while since i played them.

Shit,  i spent almost a year just coding bad cats from scratch with no rom in fo,  I’d be willing to do one of the larger scripted tables.

People may just have to wait a bit for me to convert all the code and bug test it

 

Space cadet looks great fren

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[ICPjuggla]

It’s good to see your back Scott.

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[freneticamnesic]

I think it depends on the FP author of its easy to convert or not… Space Cadet was very very easy and it was the first attempt. Mad Scientist I’ve spent a lot of time helping randr with and it’s much more difficult but still not too bad. I think Space Cadet was the perfect learning table though. I am confident 3 angels could be scripted and functioning in less than a weekend by UW. You’ll spend much more time making it pretty in vpx than scripting. Ultra dmd is also easy to adapt from the native FP scoring functions so it’s perfect for this stuff.

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[TerryRed]

Man, alot has happened since this post…

While I know, I won’t convince those who have a hate for FP physics that they should embrace FP…..   …to those who simply wanted full cabinet toy, lighting and feedback support for some of their favorite tables…. it’s now starting to happen. We have 20+ tables so far on this site alone!

I’m personally proud of what myself, and others have pulled off in a short amount of time.  I will dare say…that you have never seen any other tables on VP that have this kind of cabinet lighting (not including addressable leds) and feedback, not to mention the excellent videos, and audio. Machine gun fire, explosions, multiple animated effects…. I even scared the shit out of poor randr while he played Avatar.  ;)

These are DOFLinx mods to FP tables that I have done, and these videos show off features of these tables that most people have never seen. A shame…

It really is worth watching them as I think these tables look (and play) amazing in a cabinet kitted with the latest in lighting and feedback. You can skip the first few mins of each video if you don’t want to hear me explaining stuff…

 

Tron Legacy (STERN) (Ultimate) (all new table)

 

Avatar (Ultimate)

 

Tron Legacy (Ultimate)  (SLAMT1LT, original)  , VERY cool video!

 

Iron Man (Ultimate)

 

Jaws (Ultimate)

 

Superman (Ultimate)

 

RoboCop (Ultimate)

 

Aliens Legacy (Ultimate)  this seems to be a big favorite for alot of people

 

Star Trek (STERN) (Ultimate)

 

I would love to hear any feedback of what you see… not of the physics, blah, blah…. but of what you see in the videos.  This is new territory for FP and any opinions would be welcome!

 

Also…to the original poster….   Dr Tom is working away at adding DOFLinx cabinet support to Dead Hunters…  and he really hopes to get 3 Angels done as well….so keep an eye out for that!

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[randr]

Physics in fp are a issue for sure! But….

dof in future pinball does take the sting off a bit and really is very cool. One thing that is a issue currently is shaker intensity is way to strong hope that can be addressed 100% shaker is to much!

Terry you really are doing a great job physics aside still amazing creations!

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[TerryRed]

randr wrote:

Physics in fp are a issue for sure! But…. dof in future pinball does take the sting off a bit and really is very cool. One thing that is a issue currently is shaker intensity is way to strong hope that can be addressed 100% shaker is to much! Terry you really are doing a great job physics aside still amazing creations!

I’ll have to pass that on to DDH69…he’s been a bit busy and out of site lately…so hopefully something can be added in to allow ON / Off and control of intensity options similar to DOF Config Tool.

 

I hope HauntFreaks, would at least want to try 3 Angels if Dr Tom ever gets it done. I know that SLAMT1LT loves what we have been doing with his tables, and it makes him want to get a cabinet now. To bad he doesn’t have room for one, considering he works for Heighway Pinball!

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[randr]

3 angels would be played im sure with dof! even without dof I have a friend that plays it all the time.

Where is haunt!? Getting worried about that guy!

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[Dr.Tom]

Like Terry said, in my opinion, the original intent of this thread is a moot point.  FP is so much better now and I will go a little further than Randr in saying that DOFLINX mods completely change the experience and put FP right up there with VPX.  Now, I will always preface this by saying that they are two different experiences.  Trying to make them feel the same will do nothing but frustrate you.  Enjoy and embrace each for what it is…my two cents.  And Dead Hunters is done, having uploading issues that hopefully are now resolved.  3 Angels is next.  Learned a lot from Dead hunters that I am going to apply there.  Oh, and if shaker motor intensity is an issue, then be prepared for some serious stuff when you power up Dead Hunters.

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[randr]

Dr. Tom I agree fp has such great original tables would be a shame not to play them! And yes dof is a great step to enhance the playability same as pbfx2 with dof it makes them great as well.

3 angels will be played! Anyone that don’t know that original should give it a look.

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[Daryl]

I have been playing around with FP->VP .. script is done .. DMD is the bugger..Materials are also an issue. The ramp messes up the bumper covers. Need to get the flashers “clear”.  Converting scripts isnt too hard when there is an equivalent VP function available.

 

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