Color DMD Setup

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  • #70676
    Tyson
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      @tyson171

      Something I’m not finding a lot of information on, how do I setup a PinDMDv3 to work with color?  Do the games require different roms or a different kind of setup all together?

      Also looking to get PinDMDV3 to work with Pinball FX3, tutorial would be great if anyone has one handy!

      Thanks!

      #70678
      Thalamus
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        @thalamus
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        Glad I wrote this … only need to paste a link now …

        Pindmd3 – replacing pindmd.dll for dmddevice.dll

        You also need to patch the roms and in some cases the games looks great with only the pin2dmd.pal file.

         

        #70702
        Tyson
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          @tyson171

          Thanks m8!

          #70924
          Tyson
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            @tyson171

            So I got the Pindmd V3 working fine.  As soon as i rename the pindmd.dll to pindmd.dll.old and add in the new dmddevice.dll from your post over at vpforums, i don’t get anything on my dmd anymore.

            My global config is set to external dmd as well, any idea?

            What version of VpinMame are you running?  Currently i’m using a 64bit version of 2.9, curious if thats the issue. Does that also work with Sam games?

            Thanks,

            Tyson!

            #70941
            Thalamus
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              @thalamus
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              Which post at vpf ? You need the dmddevice.dll that is inside freezy’ dmdext utility in pinmame folder. But lucky1 for pinballx and/or xdmd.

              If you do it wrong, yes, pindmd3 stays black.

              I’m running in my cab 10.4beta and latest sam. I’ve used this setup since before 2.9. When you go with 2.9 you will unfortunately get into problems running some of the GTS3 rom tables. Major slowdown in the pindmd3 vs the virtual one. Hoping Freezy  get time to fix it. He said about a week ago he would look into this matter next.

              #70998
              Tyson
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                @tyson171

                I think I have it working for the most part.  Is there a way to get Pinball X to pull from the VpinMame rom files instead of playing videos?  I replaced the files listed in the wiki, and it plays the videos in real color dmd folder, but it won’t play the file from VpinMame raw rom formats. (which I would prefer).

                I can just download all of the color rom videos, what source did you use for your Thalamus?  I have a GameEX account.

                #71003
                Thalamus
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                  @thalamus
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                  I use my custom dmd videos located here : http://vpinball.com/VPBdownloads/alternative-real-dmd-videos/

                  I remember I tried what you asked for – before dmdext was release. I abandoned that since the load time was way to slow.

                  #71005
                  Tyson
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                    @tyson171

                    Thanks for the link m8!  I’m downloading now.

                    Interesting, with a real plasma dmd with pindmd2 they loaded instantly.

                    Now….I’m wondering if i bought the wrong setup.  Looks like most of the color rom files are for the pin2dmd in the .pal format, not really the pindmd3.  Is this true, or am I just missing something.  I really wish there was a resource with just a bunch of prepatched color roms.

                    #71007
                    Tyson
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                      @tyson171

                      I’m getting there now, found this on vpuniverse –

                      http://vpuniverse.com/forums/files/file/4966-more-altcolor-color-pallettes/

                      I was missing the following – /altcolor/”tablename” directory structure in the vpinmame folder.

                      I’m only seeing about 16 .diff files for fully customized dmd using RGB files.  Are there others out there other than this link –

                      http://vpuniverse.com/forums/files/category/95-color-rom-patches/

                      To bad there isn’t a way to dump these –

                      http://shop.colordmd.com/led-displays/

                      #71009
                      Thalamus
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                        @thalamus
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                        Yes. Your on the correct track now. If pin2dmd.pal exists for the rom it will be used, if not I think registry is the next try. Not sure about dmc …

                        And, yes – there are a few roms you need to patch. Some doesn’t work for pindmd3 unfortunately, but, only having the pin2dmd.pal file in place for eg. TWD is just great. There is also a additional color palette collection @ VPU. Haven’t checked if there are many duplicates. I expect there is.

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                        #71013
                        Tyson
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                          @tyson171

                          Thanks for all of the help.  Now i’m getting crashing after playing a few games in pinball x.  So far, been quite the nightmare trying to make all of this work properly.

                          I found the post on disabling “at91jit” in the registry (i’m on a windows 7 machine)

                          Does this need done for every table, or should I look into installing windows 10? (man i really don’t want to do that, ton of work to get my cabinet where its at today)

                          *Edit* Even after disabling at91jit on TWD for example, it launches fine once, close the game via pinball x, launch again and it crashes.  Any thoughts?

                          *Edit 2 * I actually didn’t have the color rom enabled on TWD, for some reason when I go into pinmame and Set Defaults now, it doesn’t default to all of my tables, I have to individually set on each rom.  Anyways setting at91jit to disabled crashes TWD on launch.  After I enabled the color rom, I can open TWD exactly three times, after that is crashes.  Not sure what to do.

                           

                          #71016
                          Tyson
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                            @tyson171

                            I believe I fixed it, and it was my own fault.  I was using the SAM 3.0 Beta, and it wasn’t very happy with my setup.  Went back to the official SAM 2.9 build, and opened and closed TWD and a couple of other tables a bunch of times and all is fine again.

                            With Vpinmame setup defaults not applying to every rom, my guess is that i already have a registry entry for those roms, so setup defaults is only for newly loaded tables?

                            #71021
                            Thalamus
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                              @thalamus
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                              Yes, if you need new config you need to delete the registry hive for that table … or do it manually like you are describing. Or, export the registry to a text file – do search/replace for those values you want to change, then re-import.

                              I’m seeing some crashes on the latest sams – but, that is if I load a table, exit and reload in the same instance. If I completely close VP it is not that big of a issue. That is what PBX is doing.

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