Video lag – do I need better hardware

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    Gilrock
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      Now I’ve got everything setup and running fairly well but some of the main videos like the Popper videos with the starfield and lightning don’t play smooth and look like there are compression artifacts.  Every so often it will play a little better.  I spent a lot of time uninstalling anything I saw listed I didn’t need and there was some Git and Java stuff that were running alot and that did give me a slight improvement.  I attached an image that shows most of the important PC specs.   My playfield monitor is a normal 1920×1080 TV but my backglass monitor is a ViewSonic 16:10 ratio so its 1920×1200.  I read about using Handbrake but it won’t upscale a 1920×1080 up to that size it will only downsize.  I tried ripping the backglass video to 720p and it didn’t help but I noticed the file was slightly bigger even though it went from 1080p to 720p so I must not know the right settings.  I have low confidence that would matter though.  I even removed an extra USB card I had installed that was used to bring in 2 Playstation Eye cameras I had setup for BAM but I don’t really use anymore.  Uninstalled all the Playstation Eye and Kinect driver stuff related to that.  I don’t see anything else I can remove so it seems like either I need a better CPU or Video Card.

      I’m curious to hear specs from those that have video running smooth.

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      #90730
      TerryRed
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        @terryred
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        My specs are an older i5 2500K, and GTX 970, 8GB DDR3, SSD, Win 10, 4K TV for PF, HDTV for BG, 3rd TV 1366×768 split into Under and DMD screens.

         

        Your video card and CPU “should” be fine I would think for playback in HD. You could try using someone else’s videos instead of mine to see if they far better. Ideally you should only have videos running at 30fps.

        VLC uses your CPU more than GPU.

        Its possible you may far better with Win10.

        Be absolutely sure you are using the 32 bit VLC 2.2.8.

        #90732
        Gilrock
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          @gilrock
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          I definitely have 32 bit VLC 2.2.8 I double-checked it this afternoon.

          Yeah when I saw your videos you had video running everywhere and it was very smooth.  I want that….lol.

          #90744
          LynnInDenver
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            Question: Have you tried to use a “standard” screen in place of the regular backglass one, or setting the PinUp backglass dimensions to 1920×1080? Might be worth checking to see if it’s the “odd” resolution that’s causing the issue.

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            #90746
            Gilrock
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              @gilrock
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              Question: Have you tried to use a “standard” screen in place of the regular backglass one, or setting the PinUp backglass dimensions to 1920×1080? Might be worth checking to see if it’s the “odd” resolution that’s causing the issue.

              Yes I have tried that.

              #90747
              Drybonz
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                Here’s a link to some info and discussion.  Some of it is probably out of date.  I think I told randr I wanted to transfer this over here at some point but I’m too lazy.

                http://www.vpforums.org/index.php?showtopic=35390&hl=

                #90749
                NailBuster
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                  @nailbuster
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                  download this free benchmark to see how your system is working:

                  http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Software

                  let us know how your components are rated.

                   

                   

                  #90752
                  Gilrock
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                    @gilrock
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                    I think it told me I need to build a new system…lol.  Not sure why it didn’t even rate the GPU…said it could not find a Direct3D device.

                    http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/9563048

                    #90754
                    randr
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                      @randr
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                      If I looked at your specs right your video card is not the greatest but should work with some tweaks to vp like not maxing all the settings out should make most very playable. But a newer video card would sure help that’s for sure! 960 or better nvidia would be a great improvement

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                      #90755
                      NailBuster
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                        @nailbuster
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                        I think it told me I need to build a new system…lol. Not sure why it didn’t even rate the GPU…said it could not find a Direct3D device.

                        http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/9563048

                        i believe vlc used direct3d as its ‘normal’ driver… so if that benchmark is unable to test direct3d then I doubt you’ll get good performance in videoplay.

                        are you sure all correct drivers for you gpu/os are installed/up to date?

                         

                        #90764
                        Gilrock
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                          @gilrock
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                          Well yeah I actually pulled that 780 TI from my desktop machine and then downloaded the nVidia driver yesterday.  I was hoping it would run better than the 670 GTX that was in there.  But I’m not wasting much more time with it I already ordered a bunch of upgrade hardware last night.

                          #90947
                          Gilrock
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                            @gilrock
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                            Success!!! Well a bunch of new toys were delivered today.  I basically built an entire new computer system including installing Windows 10 from scratch.  I haven’t got all the installations ironed out yet but I can already see when PinUp runs both video screens are running smooth as silk.  And as a bonus my pindmd3 arrived today so I swapped with the pindmd2 I’ve been running.  Hopefully my hardware is set for another 5 years.  I’ve been fighting bad flickering problems with my backglass when running Visual Pinball and I’ve got fingers crossed cause it seems to be rock solid now.

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