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  • #98235
     dazzlaa 
    Participant

    Hey guys,

    Firstly, I want to make it clear that this is my first venture into table creation. 99.9%of the work here has to be credited to the previous authors of this table but I have been given permission to share my changes as an update. Thanks to Thalamus, 85Vett,  Freneticamnesic for the original work and also the wider community for offering advice on script issues and how to move forward (Xenonph, Terry Red, Did Crabtree,Rob Ross and special mention to G5k for the ball :) ).

     

    I really wanted to add in the OST music to the table at start up and that was my original aim with this mod, however once I started digging deeper into VPX I found I quite enjoyed tinkering, making changes, making mistakes but hopefully some improvements.

    It plays well and hopefully you will like the subtle differences I have made. :)

     

    Thanks again

    Daz.

     

     

    #98253
     TerryRed 
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    Great stuff. Interesting timing on this.

    We were talking in the other thread about possibly adding in OST music to the table and how to do it.

    Since this is a SAM table you can’t use Pinsound. Your only option was to try to replace the original sounds and music using Pinball Browser (you can’t turn down or disable just the music with SAM using just VPX or pinmame). The only problem there is that you are limited to the same time length for the sounds, and also crappy mono 22000Hz sound.

    Well I’ve been working away at my Transformers PuP-Pack, and that conversation led me to try something I always wanted to try. Replacing all the music with OST music similar to the FP version. So how to do this?

    I used Pinball Browser to “mute” all the music tracks in the game’s rom. Then I used my PuP-Pack to play OST music for every track in the game. Completely controlled by using the PuPCapture images for starting a game, starting different modes, ending different modes and going back to the main music, etc.. It works PERFECT and sound amazing. I can’t go back to the original music anymore.

    This is obviously limited by the table itself and what it shows during gameplay to do the controlling of the music. In the case of Stern they do a great job of this and most of the SAM tables would be similar.

    My plan was to release Transformers PuP-Pack (still working on it) with the “option” of using my modded “muted” rom and the “option” of using OST music. Its also possible to have a music only PuP-Pack.

    I planned on doing the music for all other movie based Stern games where possible as well using PuP-Packs. Since Tron and Avatar already have a PuP-Pack…half the work is already done.

    I hope this is good news for you, as it can do more of what you wanted to do with the music.

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    #98258
     Thalamus 
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    A bit surprised to see that you put f32b almost in the mid of the pf. I think you would do better to replace it with something else if you didn’t like the way it was. Or maybe you’ve done it by mistake ? Except for that. I find that it plays good. Makes me wonder if I maybe shouldn’t continue on 1.13 that I’ve had laying here for a year now :)

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    #98273
     Micronaut 
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    fantastic. :good:

    it`s see,play and listen great.
    thanks for this excellent work.  :bye:

    #98279
     sirknockie 
    Participant

    Got an error on starting:

    d3derr_invalidcall (0x8876086c:Invalid call) at RenderDevice.cpp:854

    all other Tables works fine !

    some ideas ?

    Greets

    Jochen

    #98281
     Pinbolt 
    Participant
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    Wow, work and played perfect. Change the inclination to 50 and it looks much better in the DT view.

    Thank you for the Mod.

    #98305
     dazzlaa 
    Participant

    That sounds great Terry, it definitely sounds like it’s going to be something special!
    The one thing that got me when doing the Avatar rom sounds was the sheer amount of audio files contained in the rom, like thousands and none were named apart from script names. That made it very time consuming so if you need help along the way I’d be happy to help out. 🙂

     

    Ill check up up on that Thalamus, it’s most definitely not intentional haha, 100% noob here :)

    i think you should get back to the new update for sure, continuous improvements are good for everyone in my opinion. I did find a great 3D model of the amp suit online for download but wasn’t sure how to implement that, could be an option for the future perhaps?

     

    sorry sirknocky, I’m not familiar with that error, sounds like a rom error perhaps? Did you try the new rom?

     

    thanks again

    Daz :good:

    #98308
     giovanni1966 
    Participant

    Thank you for the mod. Very good improvement of the playability and beautiful light effects.

    Once you have disabled the Siegfried and Roy- music, the table is a dream.

    Why is the rubber thickness of the flippers different?

    :good:

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 3 weeks ago by  giovanni1966.
    • This reply was modified 1 month, 3 weeks ago by  giovanni1966.
    #98311
     Thalamus 
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    I would be very interested in a new amp-suit model for sure !

    #98327
     sirknockie 
    Participant

    Thank you Daz,

    yes used the rom which was in the package.

    I look further…

    thank you !

    Greets

    Jochen

    #98332
     STAT 
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    Nice Version :good: , i changed Phys a bit, try it and let me know …

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    #98385
     Pinfan45 
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    I used the rom included in the package but get this error when running it. the music plays in the background. no table loads and plays. Thanks appreciate the help.

     

    ‘machine terminated before initialized, check the rom path or rom file.’ :wacko:

    #98400
     Pinbolt 
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    Press F1  and check “ignore rom crc error” and start the table again

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    #98517
     Pinfan45 
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    No Go Pinbolt Ignore Rom was already had check mark  in the menu. Didn’t work thanks for your help

    #98521
     Bob Albright 
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    nice mod–plays very well—thank you

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