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February 27, 2020 at 6:25 am #165039
I’ve been fiddling with getting FX3 working on the cabinet, and it mostly works.
So I’ll launch Popper, select a table from FX3. First time, it will launch and everything is dandy.
The best I can do is launch three tables from FX3. Then, it won’t launch. I just get the desktop, and it won’t launch from Popper at all at that point until I restart Popper, at which point the cycle begins again.
So far, the best results I’ve gotten is to set Popper to run as Administrator, but I know that’s also not a 100% workable solution, as it should run just fine without the setting. I’ve fiddled with giving complete permissions (full control to all) otherwise, and it’s still maddeningly inconsistent.
The unfortunate problem is if I can’t get FX3 running consistently before the Showdown, I’ll need to remove the menu items temporarily for the show, and restore them later.
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February 27, 2020 at 6:51 am #165040Try running FX3 in Borderless Windowed and see if that helps you at all.
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February 27, 2020 at 7:48 am #165042Already got it in Windows Borderless. That’s one of the things I double checked.
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February 27, 2020 at 8:25 am #165043Post your launch and exit script
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February 27, 2020 at 6:05 pm #165084And definitely had one “won’t launch at all on the first try” tonight. Here’s the information requested:
cd /d “C:\Visual Pinball\VPinMAME”
start /min “” “PUPDMDControl.exe” FX3 PINUP\[GAMENAME]START “” “[STARTDIR]Launch\VPXSTARTER.exe” 5 5 20 “Pinball FX3”
rem SET ALTPARAM=
rem if “[ALTMODE]”==”classic” (SET ALTPARAM=-class )
rem if “[ALTMODE]”==”hotseat2” (SET ALTPARAM=-hotseat_2 )
rem if “[ALTMODE]”==”hotseat3” (SET ALTPARAM=-hotseat_3 )
rem if “[ALTMODE]”==”hotseat4” (SET ALTPARAM=-hotseat_4 )rem START “” “[DIREMU]\steam.exe” -applaunch 442120 %ALTPARAM% -table_[GAMENAME]
START “” “[DIREMU]\steam.exe” -applaunch 442120 -table_[GAMENAME]Exit Script:
“[STARTDIR]LAUNCH\PUPCLOSER.EXE” WINTIT “Pinball FX3” 4 1 3
I also have had this error occur occasionally, specifically when trying to open an FX3 table:
The maddening thing is that the only consistency is that I eventually must exit Popper and reenter to get it working again. And yes, I have tried disabling external DMD support.
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February 27, 2020 at 6:17 pm #165085Additional: it’s just as maddeningly inconsistent trying to launch from Steam directly, instead of using Popper.
About the only way it loads consistently is I have to do it from the Play button in the Steam front end.
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February 27, 2020 at 6:37 pm #165087February 27, 2020 at 6:49 pm #165089Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit.
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February 27, 2020 at 7:01 pm #165090Are you using other program that are 64 bit that this program may not like?
Are you up to date on Visual C++Â and net framework?
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February 27, 2020 at 8:26 pm #165092I’m trying to strip down the installs (this is actually my old desktop computer), so that I can eliminate problem points.
And with enough stripping, and uninstalling all of .net and reinstalling from the links, we at least appear to be back up and running. I just played five tables in a row, different ones, from Popper. Hopefully it’ll remain stable now.
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February 27, 2020 at 9:20 pm #165095fyi… nothing in pinup/popper/player is .NET
just so if you see a .NET error in future like that error you’re seeing
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February 27, 2020 at 9:55 pm #165097Yeah, at this point, I’m suspecting that the problem was entirely external to Popper, just that Popper was where I was stumbling hard on it.
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February 29, 2020 at 6:08 am #165259…and the problem has returned. But I think I’ve found the culprit – x360ce. I’m downloading the last free version of XPadder and trying that, because I kind of need to have the plunger working if FX3 is going to be present on the cab at the show.
ETA: OK, I got XPadder working, and even have the “launch and kill” set up so I don’t need to leave it running and interfere with plunger features elsewhere. It’s not perfect (x360ce would be better because, well, analog), but it should eliminate complaints about “that plunger doesn’t work”.
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February 29, 2020 at 8:44 am #165300I use the x360ce with no problem but I’m running windows 10 and am assuming you are using the 32 bit version of (x360ce)
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February 29, 2020 at 10:05 am #165306Yeah, I’ve gotten it fixed up using XPadder for right now. I may fiddle with x360ce again later, and specifically install the 64bit version only, and see how that handles.
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March 1, 2020 at 10:47 am #165386Make sure you are up to date here:
https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/dotnet-framework
…and make sure you install EVERY version of Visual C++ redistributable here:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/2977003/the-latest-supported-visual-c-downloads
EVERY year, 32 bit and 64 bit.
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March 1, 2020 at 12:48 pm #165416Really annoyed by Microsoft putting the older versions behind the sign-in wall. It forces me into Edge. I’ll be installing the ones from behind the sign-in wall, on top of all the rest of the reinstalls I did earlier in the week.
Also, XPadder introduces a hell of a lot of flipper lag, so that’s pretty much a no-go for a solution.
Since we have about 60 days, my husband did advise me to more or less pull what doesn’t work out of the Popper menu when the time comes to haul the cabinet out to the show.
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March 1, 2020 at 2:33 pm #165431…and even that didn’t work. It’s to the point that x360ce won’t activate for anyone… and I looked into whether or not I could use a 360 controller as a proxy, and I ran smack into Steam’s efforts to force using the controller as a substitute for a mouse. I even ran into it before I stuck my 360 controller on it.
I’m done tangling with this until after the May show. Steam has come back off the cabinet for the time being so I don’t waste “get the cabinet ready for show” time trying to get something working that should be working, yet because all the commercial offerings are around “sell you the new hardware at the expense of DIY and old hardware” makes it much more difficult to get things working as it should. We still have more than 600 tables on the cabinet, anyway.
Additional: Putting Steam back on the cabinet, I’ll just rely on the DOFLinx plunger implementation, since that seemed to be what was actually working reliably. I’ll just have to see if it actually will “carry over” to Zaccaria Pinball if I add that to the “watch list”. At least, once it all reinstalls. I’m giving up on x360ce and XPadder until after the show, when I can, again, afford the time to actually pursue it.
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March 2, 2020 at 9:03 pm #165525…and I got x360ce working anyway, all the way around. This works with my preference to have a single piece of software doing any one thing, so I’m not relying on DOFLinx and x360ce and whatever else I might be trying to run to get analog plunger working everywhere I’d like it to be. FX2, FX3 and Zaccaria all now have full proper analog plunger off the Pinscape board.
I had to download the latest 4.10 “alpha” for x360ce (which doesn’t put dll files all over the drive space like the 3.2 release version, just needs to be running). I now have it tied in to Start Minimized when I load Popper, and Quit when I quit Popper.
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