FSS Mod Genesis (Gottlieb 1986)

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  • #179828
    arconovum
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      @nicholaschristopher
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      https://vpinball.com/VPBdownloads/fss-mod-genesis-gottlieb-1986/

      Mod Includes:

      [10.6] VP 10.6+ only.
      [FSS] Backglass/Box/Backlight.
      [CCX] Color Correction.
      [PGI] Persistent General Illumination , & [SHD] Shadows.
      [D&N] Day and Night transition.
      [NPF] Altered Playfield.

      Original Author(s) VP9: jpsalas
      Original Author(s) VPX: nFozzy, DOF additions by arngrim.

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      #179839
      arconovum
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        @nicholaschristopher
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        I also fixed the robot animation issues , it may fail in minor circumstances like a 2% chance of failure, but its better than not working 100% at all.

        #179840
        bord
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          @bord
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          The best worst backglass of all time!

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          #179850
          arconovum
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            @nicholaschristopher
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            The best worst backglass of all time!

            As one man’s garb is another man’s treasure, some peoples ugly is another’s beauty..  B-)

            #179863
            ICPjuggla
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              @icpjuggla
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              This mod was never authorized! I can even tell by the screen shots without even opening the table it’s a mod of my work. I’ve got no problems with people doing mods of my work but authorization is needed and proper credit must be giving to everyone who worked on it in the past. It’s really not much to ask..

              #179865
              arconovum
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                @nicholaschristopher
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                This mod was never authorized! I can even tell by the screen shots without even opening the table it’s a mod of my work. I’ve got no problems with people doing mods of my work but authorization is needed and proper credit must be giving to everyone who worked on it in the past. It’s really not much to ask..

                I asked for authorization for this table at least 2 years ago, either from you or nFozzy.

                #179878
                ICPjuggla
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                  @icpjuggla
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                  This mod was never authorized! I can even tell by the screen shots without even opening the table it’s a mod of my work. I’ve got no problems with people doing mods of my work but authorization is needed and proper credit must be giving to everyone who worked on it in the past. It’s really not much to ask..

                  I asked for authorization for this table at least 2 years ago, either from you or nFozzy.

                  Well if you asked me I apologize for not remembering. I’m sure I would of approved it under 2 conditions one condition and the main condition is to give proper credit where credit is due. And this mod release is lacking that.

                   

                  its honestly really disrespectful you can’t take the time to track down the authors and give each proper credit and ask if it’s okay. When I built tables I personally made that my 1st priority when working on a mod of others work!

                  #179897
                  arconovum
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                    @nicholaschristopher
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                    The problem here is simple , and that your credits appear only in the table info, and nfozzys appears in the script header , so I assumed it was his work.

                    I will add your credits to the script as shown in the table info, and alter  everything to properly address this problem, Expect an updated release.

                    #179907
                    The Loafer
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                      @theloafer
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                      Most of my message preposting has been made null and void mostly by Arconovum’s post but @icpjuggla: You know we have your back. I totally agree that all original authors need to be mentioned in the release notes/release thread as well.  But when I read your reply I too checked the VPF release thread and I saw no mention of your name at the top of the thread and I don’t think you made a point of calling out nfozzy about it (but from the thread it’s evident you were your usual awesome collaborative self!).   I do get this is a sore point with you and there is a lack of respect at times so I get the frustration but still… I would also hope that a members good standing like Arconovum would at least be worth the consideration of bringing the issue to light without blatant accusations.  Sometimes mistakes are made right?

                       

                      I hope this post isn’t read like a negative toward ICPJuggla or any author who merits credit. Being credited isn’t about misplaced pride. It’s about earning ownership from the hard work put in and it’s a right well earned with many authors.  I just think fairness also works the other way too

                       

                      edit: see VPF release thread https://www.vpforums.org/index.php?showtopic=34554&hl=genesis

                      Worthy of note:  “permission to mod = yes, without approval”.  Was this set in error?

                       

                      edit:  The VPF table is NOT the one that was modded

                       

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                      #179910
                      bord
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                        @bord
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                        I agree, plenty of bad actors to chew on but arconovum has always been great about credit/permission.

                        #179942
                        STAT
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                          @stefanaustria
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                          Guys, some chances that we also get the Robot Fix for the FS Version ?

                          And there are just the Images, not a Prim ?

                          #179959
                          arconovum
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                            @nicholaschristopher
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                            Guys, some chances that we also get the Robot Fix for the FS Version ?

                            And there are just the Images, not a Prim ?

                            @STAT where is the FS version? and will you test it if I fix it?

                            I don’t know what you mean by just images, but remember this is an FSS table not an official VPVR.

                            #180052
                            STAT
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                              @stefanaustria
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                              It is the latest nice Table by @icpjuggla here: https://vpinball.com/VPBdownloads/genesis-premier-1986-2/

                              Ready for Test, of Course, this is a really cool Table :good:
                              But i think we/you should talk now with ICP for that …

                              With Images, i mean, Robot is still not a 3D Model/Primitive ?

                              #180071
                              arconovum
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                                @nicholaschristopher
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                                With Images, i mean, Robot is still not a 3D Model/Primitive ?

                                Yes it is the one with the 3D model. I will talk to ICP.

                                #180076
                                The Loafer
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                                  @theloafer
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                                  It is the latest nice Table by @icpjuggla here: https://vpinball.com/VPBdownloads/genesis-premier-1986-2/

                                  Ready for Test, of Course, this is a really cool Table :good:

                                  But i think we/you should talk now with ICP for that …

                                  With Images, i mean, Robot is still not a 3D Model/Primitive ?

                                  How the heck did I ever miss that nice release?!?  Wow thanks for the link.  Also brings some good POV on icpjuggla position.

                                  #180086
                                  ICPjuggla
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                                    @icpjuggla
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                                    Let me clear the air and just say I’m not upset or pissed at anyone.

                                    All I was doing was pointing out the fact that proper credit wasn’t given.. I’ve got no issue’s with people moding tables I’ve worked on all I ask is proper credit is given to everyone who has worked on the table past, present etc. it’s really not that much to ask.. the second thing that I ask is the table only be uploaded hard at VPB. So those two things really aren’t that much.

                                    If anyone has an issue with that then it’s simple create your own from scratch build and you don’t have to worry about credit to anyone.

                                    as for the fact nFozzy has it set up as yes, without approval. I get that, but when I did my mod I reached out to him and asked if it was cool. nFozzy is a great guy so in no way was I pointing a finger at him. The issue there is yes, he said mod without approval but if your going to download my mod of the table and use what I created then I expect to be contacted and giving credit b/c I don’t give permission without approval. I hope that makes sense to everyone.

                                     

                                    anyway thank you arconovum for fixing the issue. Looks like a nice mod keep up the great work.

                                    #180121
                                    ICPjuggla
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                                      @icpjuggla
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                                      Guys, some chances that we also get the Robot Fix for the FS Version ?

                                      And there are just the Images, not a Prim ?

                                      I just gave arconovum permission to fix and upload a new FS version with his fix in it for the robot etc. ?

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                                      #180621
                                      STAT
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                                        @stefanaustria
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                                        Thank you both ( i.a.) :-)

                                        #230789
                                        Wrath2000
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                                          @wrath2000

                                          Great job thanks, sometimes the roms names are wrong so have to rename or try them in the script to see if they work even, table it working after renaming the rom.

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