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Greetings ladies and gentlemen, as some of you already know I’ve been gathering resources to build A.G Soccer.
The good news is the resources are pouring in, I’ve got someone from pinside who’s doing a full restore on his table and is providing HD pics. Currently I have loads of un-populated play field pics and I’m just waiting on the plastics now. The bad news is his table has bad fading.
So what I’d like to know is:
Are there any experienced photoshoppers (or gimp or w/e) that would be willing to lend a hand? I know cyberperez offered to help and possibly one other. If I have to I’ll do it all myself but what I’m hoping to do is divide the work up a bit, especially on the graphics part of the project among a handful of people to see it done fast. I will end up building this entire table in 3D and that will be a fair amount of work on its own and I’m shorter on free time than I was a few weeks ago and I’m hoping to get this table done in a timely manner.
What needs to be done?
So far the play field will need to be stitched and minor clean ups.  The table suffers from fading quite badly so there will be lots of color balancing and color fixing to do. There will also be a bit of editing to do as some of the plastics text can vary based on version/region. If I can just get 2-3 people total it will make the project progress much faster.
So this will effectively be the sign up thread for this project.
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What I have available so far for the play field can be downloaded here:
https://vpinball.com/forums/topic/a-g-soccer-stripped-play-field-resources/
I also have some additional reference images sourced through google.
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I know there are people out there that can do this, hopefully we can get some volunteers
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I don’t know that I’m an expert but I do have a fair bit of experience with photoshop and adobe illustrator. I would be happy to do what I can to assist.
Gwen
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Thanks Gwen, I’m going to try and come up with a color palette soon so we can start un-fading the artwork.
In the meantime if someone wants to have a go at stitching the play field together that would be helpful, see link above.
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Downloading the playfield now. I’ll see what I can get done with it.
Gwen
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gotta get the team back together lol
Punch it!
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If you need help with photoshop work, I would like to help where i can.
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@dark, do you know what pf dimensions for this are?
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The pinside user gave me this info:
“Inside cabinet 1350mm x 520mm
Inside of apron (between flippers on flat part of apron) to inside of apron other end 943mm
From middle of playfield is has a 4 degree fall towards the flippers.”I sent him a message to confirm that the ‘inside cabinet’ measurements includes the entire white wood or more.
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Decent with photoshop and indesign/illustrator. Glad to help if I can.
Onevox
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Lots of great people coming forward to help now, for the time being I’d say just stay tuned to this thread and we’ll start to divvy the work out. As I mention above color correction and fixing the faded colors, we will need to coordinate to make sure we all use the same pallet. The resources are good for this project so I don’t think it will be too much work especially with people helping out. I have a sneaking suspicion that it won’t be as simple as just adjusting color levels especially with the red’s so far gone, I think we will have to digitally repaint a lot of the colors. Technically we could just slap it together with the faded colors and it will probably still look good but I want it to look like it’s fresh out of the factory.
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To give an idea of what the colors ‘should’ look like this is a reference image I have from another machine and we can see on this machine the center plastic’s red color has faded to orange instead of yellow like on our resource machine. The RGB on the play field are much more vibrant than the pic posted above.
This pic shows a table with only slightly faded center plastic, they almost still red! :P
This is probably the closest to factory fresh colors here but the pic isn’t the best.
Marco specialties sells the plastic set, as per usual they provide a low res thumbnail that’s just low res enough to be useless. :P
We can assume these are the true colors I suppose.
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Thanks, @dark! I think this should be a pretty accurate map for a redraw or even just a placement map to stitch the higher resolution images onto. Common pinball measurements are accurate (.5″ rails, 1″ inserts, 1.25″ inserts, 1.5″ inserts, circles are round, etc.) Laid flat the art is 20.25 x 45. You’ll notice the top half has a slight skew to the right of center. Any redraw or stitch work should correct this or just duplicate from the bottom half and change the colors.
Hope it is helpful.
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Thanks Bord
If you take a look through the resources so far there’s a number of overlapping close up’s that are the best quality that I asked for in order to combat the perspective warping.
I’m going to attach a bunch of reference pics below:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/jn5pouo0oxom1rp/Alvin_GCompany_A.G._Soccer_Ball.zip/file
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gotta get the team back together lol
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Lt4Y1dzBaUUc_fvngIoePPQF2hKIaYL2
Here is similar but with the higher resolution images. More resolution but it seems like more lens distortion, too. It was a lot harder to get images to align. You might want to overlay the two and judge which seems most accurate. No color or blending work. Lots of better candidates for that around here.
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Alright I got some color swatches here from three sources that I deemed most likely to be close to new colors. I try to sample from what I think is the most average light exposure of the color in the pics.
At this point some artistic interpretation is needed…..I guess let’s vote on colors.
Ref image 1 (top row): colors lack some saturation, I’d say discard them all but the blue, and possibly the yellow.
Ref image 2 (2nd row): All colors look good, blue maybe slightly under-saturated while the yellow is over saturated.
Ref image 3 (3rd row): All colors seem slightly over saturated.
Alright, lets just try reducing the saturation on the red/blue/green on the last one:
Opinions?
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Lt4Y1dzBaUUc_fvngIoePPQF2hKIaYL2
Here is similar but with the higher resolution images. More resolution but it seems like more lens distortion, too. It was a lot harder to get images to align. You might want to overlay the two and judge which seems most accurate. No color or blending work. Lots of better candidates for that around here.
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Alright, lets just try reducing the saturation on the red/blue/green on the last one:
I vote #4.
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