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  • #117757
     Tom 
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    I got the OK from Rascal to go and do a complete rebuild of his Ice Fever VPX conversion.  This will be a group effort and any help would be gretly appreciated.

    So far I have done a touchup of the PF pic to get rid of the large red circles around the Bumpers and redrew the PF where it was missing.  I also redid the holes around the Targets and drop targets.  Borgdog has it now adding a new set of Flippers and resizing things to the correct dimensions.  All of the old items that were originally walls with pictures will have new primitives.  The script is pretty dated so as we go it will be updated along with Thalamus doing his SSF touches.

    Updated the drop targets and switches with primitives

    Totem was my first table and I think the lighting turned out pretty good but if anyone who has the touch wants to volunteer their services it would be appreciated.  I wouldn’t mind learning from someone with more experience.

    The plastics definitely need to be redrawn.  They are not terrible bad but after the playfield has been moved around I am sure they wont fit correctly.  I have already seen areas that are not correct in the old plastics.   I did get an offer on ebay to buy a complete set for $30.99, but the look kinda yellowed.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/ICE-FEVER-GOTTLIEB-PREMIER-1985-PINBALL-MACHINE-PLAYFIELD-LOT-OF-PLASTICS/273698599726?hash=item3fb9b5332e:g:e~EAAOSwkCZcYtTS

    I contacted him and he agreed to sell them cheaper, he said he couldn’t scan them in.  Someone take a look and see if those would be good candidates to scan in please!!!

    Being that this is a group effort if you have a suggestion of think you can add something let me know.  I am trying to manage any changes since the script will need to be heavily updated and I don’t want two people making changes at the same time.

    Here is the progress before BD got anything.  The physics seem pretty good after some changes.  If you liked Totem, I used a lot from it since same company and relatively same time period

     

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    #117759
     Tom 
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    old Playfield

    Old playfield

    New Playfield

    New Playfield with touchups

    #117760
     Tom 
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    shot pf

    Used IPD as a resource to move things around.  The placement looks pretty good

    #117764
     bord 
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    Those plastics will scan well. I have a yellowed set of Seawitch plastics that cleaned right up with a little color correction. I highly recommending throwing a few bucks at the plastic scans vs. a redraw. It will take a fraction of the time, look more authentic (IMO), and fit properly on the table (assuming the table image isn’t too skewed).

    I’m happy to scan, color correct, and make meshes out of them if you want to ship them my direction before heading your way. I have an 11×17″ scanner so I can get most long pieces without having to piece them together over multiple scans.

    Thanks for picking this project up and running with it. I love all the hand drawn art.

    #117768
     Tom 
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    That sounds great send me your address and I will have them sent to you.

     

    Plastics are bought,  I am hoping this table turns out very nice

    #117774
     Tom 
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    OK, so here are some updates from BorgDog:

    doctored playfield image to fit size right, added shooter lane background
    swapped in correct bumper primitives with lights
    flipper primitives and scripting
    top two ball gates primitives and scripting
    flipper and ball shadows with options at top of script
    my versions of cabinet walls, rails, apron and plunger cover
    updated some other image files, eg spinner, wood rails, instruction cards etc
    changed how captive ball works, just using vpx physics instead of routines
    added the surround sound script support subs
    added the collection hit sound routines but did not make the collections
    imported my standard physics materials but have not applied them to anything
    some sound file changes
    fixed a bunch of little stuff

     

    To do, that I know of:

    add slingshots, lighting, top ball lane guide primitives,

    I am going to mess with the placement of the playfield items to make visually correct.  We wont have the plastics back for a couple weeks so it will prob change a bit then.  I would like someone that has played the actual game to test this and see if it plays accurately.

    The other thing I would like to do Is see if I can get the posts to show more of a clear appearance.  I think most are clear plastic on the original???

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    #117785
     BorgDog 
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    So according to pinballmap.com there are 3 Ice Fever machines on location in the US.

    Arcade Legacy Newport, Newport KY

    BlackRock Brewers, Tucson, AZ

    Logan Arcade, Chicago, IL

    local peeps go out and play!

    #117788
     Wildman 
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    LOL…. you got the ok from rascal :wacko: ..he didnt do nothing but flip itchigo’s table..which in turn was mine to start with..I got burned on that table,1st one i worked on with people and everybody else took credit for it . I still laugh till this day…..

    all the resources came from my pin here they are .. MAKE IT GREAT AGAIN :good:

    sold the pin 2 yrs ago so this is all i have ;-)

    LOL cant figure out were to upload…heres link from VPU

    http://vpuniverse.com/forums/files/file/5505-ice-fever/

     

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    #117792
     Wildman 
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    heres the BG  to with animations

    http://vpuniverse.com/forums/files/file/2151-ice-fever-gottlieb-1985-db2s/

     

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    #117803
     Tom 
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    I am fairly new to this and I tread very lightly when making changes to any tables no matter where they come from.  You don’t want to piss off anyone for lack of asking no matter where the table came from…but thanks for all of your help Wildman, its always appreciated :good:

    #117804
     Tom 
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    AHHHHHHH DAMNIT, Wildman……..Those are nice scans of the plastics… just wasted $30.  I guess I should have asked around before I bought them .  Maybe down the road I will run into a Ice Fever in great shape for a steal that is missing all its plastics… ah well I can always resell them.  Why weren’t those used on the original table??  The top plastic on the vp9 and vpx tables has been heavily modified.  was that for a certain reason :wacko:

    #117846
     Wildman 
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    Rascal combined other tables with that one..as for the plastics being modified the whole ordeal with the table build was a joke .. that’s why i never got involved

    in another table again and went into making backglasses, were I had control over everything  B-)

    small and short history lesson for ya there lol ;-)

    #117866
     Thalamus 
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    I don’t know. I’m kind of happy that you got severely screwed back in the days. 80-90% of my db2s is made by you. :heart:

    #117868
     BorgDog 
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    OK guys, so I need a photoshop expert, someone well versed in lens correction, color correction, maybe a little blur removal etc… (miss me some haunt).

    I managed to obtain some photos of a NOS Ice Fever playfield from a nice pinsider (yes they do exist), see low res screen capture below. There are a couple full playfield shots and a few detail photos.  I did a quick lens correction to one of the full shots myself just to check it out, but I don’t know the ins and outs and I don’t see colors very well so can’t really do that part.

    Anybody out there that can help out?

    Capture-4

    #117874
     randr 
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    Yeah wish haunt was back! Someone I’m sure will speak up that can do this.

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    #117890
     Thalamus 
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    We can cry all we want. We lost Dark, we gained g5k, we lost ? Haunts , or did we ? Have a feeling he still will arrive – some day. – until then we’ve got good replacements, Skitso pr. example, for details – Draifet. Life goes on. I’m sure there is a ton of guys that read this message that are able, most are lazy bast***** though since they haven’t even cared to participate or are too shy to get the dialog rolling. Look at Tom pr. example. Sorry. Just want to make an example, Tom / Armyaviation, one table release, and you start to take a project on your own ( kind of – yes, it is still a mod – but still appreciated ). Once you start to actually participate in the community. Doing stuff you’ll see that we’re only at our best when one takes a charge, asks for help and kind of knows who to ask. It always seems to end up in a success story. Sure, Ice fever will never become Addams Family or Pinbot. But, we can make it much better what it is today. Just wait ;) My view of things anyway – </rant over>

    #117895
     bord 
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    ice fever pf

    Not perfect but dimensions look good and 85% of it resolves nicely in 4k.

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    #117913
     Tom 
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    Man what a nice playfield, thanks Bord and BorgDog.  It’s so nice to have guide holes to line everything up perfectly.

    #117929
     Tom 
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    anyone have a clue on how to make a primitive playfield peg clear in color instead of white

     

    #117934
     bord 
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    You could start with a material like this and a depth bias on the peg of -100. From there you can mess with the disable lighting from below value until it looks right.

    peg_recipe

     

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